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  • #21
    Canelo's roids have seen him become more powerful. His physical strength advantage over guys who were 2 divisions above him not along ago would be hard to deal with. His sudden new ability to punch a bicep from the bone and break opponent's eye sockets is a threat to anybody. But Calzaghe's volume and movement would trouble Canelo early, and have him thinking too much and playing defence too often.

    Calzaghe got caught early a couple of times, but he always adjusted well. Whereas Canelo didn't adjust vs Floyd, didn't adjust vs Lara, didn't adjust in the first GGG fight. So the first 6 rounds Calzaghe would slightly edge him, second half of the fight he'd take over. Not sure how much all the clen use has helped his stamina, possible the extra muscle means he would gas quicker under pressure but maybe he'd last the distance.

    The way Canelo kinda just gave up trying to win vs Floyd and Golovkin I compared to how Calzaghe always dug deep and never lost self belief, just seems a bad matchup for the ginger.

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    • #22
      Joes pusssy jabs vs Canelo’s monster body punches, uppercuts, aggression. Hmmm I wonder who the judges would pick in this one.

      That is if Joe doesn’t get knocked out before the final bell.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by jikeccfc View Post
        calzaghe would of schooled canelo far superior in every department,.....footwork,handspeed,power,tactical brain,would of won every round but still have dodgy judges scoring ie.....the 1 judge in mayweather fight and the 3 in first gokovkin fight..........
        Yea….YDKSAB…….

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        • #24
          Joe was a legend who beat other legends without a great deal of power, he would slap the s(hittt) outta U for 12 rds and fast too, in an out. Big ups champ!
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          • #25
            calzaghe will try to outwork him. but his shots have no sting. canelo is good at cutting off the ring and breaking down the body.


            Hopkins landed the cleaner harder shots on calzaghe, he still lost in my eyes by not being active enough but i think could have pulled out a win if he let his hands go more.

            hops, rjj, calzaghe himself were all old at the time. canelo has quick reflexes still, I dont think he will be as cautious/gunshy as old hopkins because i think he can slip a lot more of calzaghe's slaps. i think he can break and slow down calzaghe but it wont be easy and will prob depend on what the judges prefer. I dont think it would be a stoppage, so then you got canelo's accuracy vs calzaghe's output and i think people will be arguing no matter the decision.
            Last edited by elfag; 02-01-2022, 10:23 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by jikeccfc View Post
              calzaghe would of schooled canelo far superior in every department,.....footwork,handspeed,power,tactical brain,would of won every round but still have dodgy judges scoring ie.....the 1 judge in mayweather fight and the 3 in first gokovkin fight..........
              These kind of statements are the ones who are not valid.

              - Plant, BJS, Lara, Trout, Jacobs all these dudes were perceived before the Canelo fights as guys with better footwork ¿True or False?
              - Trout, Lara, Jacobs, Plant all these dudes were perceived as guys with quicker handspeed than Canelo before they fought him ¿True or False?
              - GGG, Jacobs, Kovalev, Smith, all these dudes were perceived as heavier handed guys before they fought Canelo. ¿True or False?
              - Canelo fought the best tactical mind in the last decades, no need to name him.

              Question:

              With all these advantages you named, ¿Which one of these guys schooled Canelo for 12 rounds? ¿Would you consider Calzaghe to be a better boxer than the guy who actually schooled Canleo?

              It amazes me how these guys come without smart arguments of why fighter A beats fighter B.

              My 2 cents: Calzaghe style is all wrong for Canelo, high mobility, high volume however I don't even remotely consider Joe as a heavier puncher than GGG, Jacobs or Kovalev, hell I would even put rank him above Callum Smith as a heavier handed guy, so Canelo would be very favored to punch in between those exchanges and make Joe hesitatnt to throw. I won't go full deep analysis on this, just wanted to make my point.

              So while I would slightly favor Calzaghe to beat Canelo, I would never ever say that Calzaghe schools him, no way.

              Last thought: Let's not act like Joe beat prime Roy or prime Hopkins, the Hopkins wins was actually a very good one as Hiopkins still gave a great account of himself after that fight, Roy was 100% done. The fights just favored him styllistically, time proved you could beat Hopkins with very high volume and pressure, Joe style was just the right one to beat Hopkins at that time.

              Joe a top SMW all time, Canelo a top SMW all time, no one of these guys schools the other one. PERIOD
              Last edited by batista84; 02-01-2022, 12:07 PM.

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              • #27
                Speed Canelo, skills Canelo, power Canelo, aggression will go with Canelo, body shots Canelo, uppercuts/combos Canelo, corner game plan Canelo

                Ring IQ 50/50

                Jab Calzaghe, volume Calzaghe

                Winner: Canelo

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                • #28
                  Calzaghe could punch he had fragile hands so didnt sit down on shots, he dropped Eubank which should tell u he had some pop.

                  But yah he never showed it 99% of the time, he was a very fast and fit fighter with punch variety and a great champion's will to win.
                  He was a born winner and I would rate him as a live dog vs anyone in history including gingernuts.

                  Calzaghe was a great of his time but he never faced anyone with the blend of technical ability and power and durability of Canelo

                  Only thing I would be wary of is Calzaghe sometimes got dropped early but usually when he was over confident, that would be incredibly dangerous vs Canelo but then vs Lacy and Kessler he stayed sharp and smart every minute of every round and stayed off the deck

                  Calzaghe was slightly past his physical prime when he moved to 175 and came to USA, his best years were in UK and he was pretty much fully developed in his skills by his early mid 20s

                  Last edited by Flabble Scrote; 02-01-2022, 03:47 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Calzaghe would win every round easily. Embarrass redballs.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Boxing fan1981 View Post
                      Speed Canelo, skills Canelo, power Canelo, aggression will go with Canelo, body shots Canelo, uppercuts/combos Canelo, corner game plan Canelo

                      Ring IQ 50/50

                      Jab Calzaghe, volume Calzaghe

                      Winner: Canelo
                      Based on what? A win against a Yildo?
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