Comments Thread For: Stevenson To Valdez: 'Oscar, Stop Ducking Me, Sign The Contract!'

[SweetPbfAli]

There's a fundamental problem with boxing when it comes to issues like these. Shakur has been calling for Valdez since 126 but Arum and TR would rather have the revenue stream from two separate markets operating in unison versus consolidating them into one and losing one market or it suffering from surgery taking a loss. Although that fighter would still be a TR fighter, they likely feel it's better to have two champions for two different audiences making money, regardless of what the fighter may want and them being in the same division.

PBC signed so much of the 140/147 division with mostly the same general market, the belts never had a chance of leaving the company, until now and it's still being stifled. It seems like a thing exclusive to boxing and it's exhausting as a fan.

[Boricua181]

MY point with Ali was that more people (In America) paid to see him lose, than to see him win! Ali admitted that, however he also said, "as long as they're paying to see you, who cares!"

More people paid to see Ali lose, how on earth did you come up with that conclusion.
Thats just your theory, there's no way to know how many paid to see him lose or win.
For as many who paid, or wanted to see him lose, there were many who paid, or wanted to see him win.
The number of people who paid, or wanted to see him win continued to grow (in America) as time went by.
As for the remark he made about "who cares", apparently no one cared more about the way he was perceived
by the people than he did.
If money meant so much to him, he would've been inducted into the Army, and he wouldn't have lost out in all those
millions that he could've made within the 3 years that he was baned from the sport.
It's all recorded, and documented in video's about him on social media, he made it a point to say he didn't smoke, drink, or hit women.
He was never accused of ****, assault, drugs, alcoholism, domestic violence, or any other crime for that matter.
He will be remembered for his greatness in the ring, but more importantly for his dignity, charity, and diplomacy out of the ring.
It turns out that after everything is said, and done Ali's character is beyond reproach, nobodies perfect, but he was special.
His legacy wont be tarnished, as the boxers who were previously mentioned will be, not to mention that it also affects their family, friends,
and fans to varying degree's.
These are just my opinions on this particular discussion, we have different views on the matter thats it, life goes on.

[Bronx2245]

More people paid to see Ali lose, how on earth did you come up with that conclusion.
Thats just your theory, there's no way to know how many paid to see him lose or win.
For as many who paid, or wanted to see him lose, there were many who paid, or wanted to see him win.
The number of people who paid, or wanted to see him win continued to grow (in America) as time went by.
As for the remark he made about "who cares", apparently no one cared more about the way he was perceived
by the people than he did.
If money meant so much to him, he would've been inducted into the Army, and he wouldn't have lost out in all those
millions that he could've made within the 3 years that he was baned from the sport.
It's all recorded, and documented in video's about him on social media, he made it a point to say he didn't smoke, drink, or hit women.
He was never accused of ****, assault, drugs, alcoholism, domestic violence, or any other crime for that matter.
He will be remembered for his greatness in the ring, but more importantly for his dignity, charity, and diplomacy out of the ring.
It turns out that after everything is said, and done Ali's character is beyond reproach, nobodies perfect, but he was special.
His legacy wont be tarnished, as the boxers who were previously mentioned will be, not to mention that it also affects their family, friends,
and fans to varying degree's.
These are just my opinions on this particular discussion, we have different views on the matter thats it, life goes on.

He threw away his Olympic Gold Medal. He became a ******, and a member of the Nation Of Islam! His mentor was Malcolm X! This is in the 1960s! He was a Hero to me and my kinfolk, but in America, at that time? Yeah, they were coming to see him lose!

Beloved Athletes Who Were Once Hated

Muhammad Ali

10 OF 10

At the height of his career in 1967, Ali refused to be drafted into the U.S. Army to fight the war in Vietnam, and was sentenced to five years in prison, though he remained free on appeal.

Ali was also stripped of his heavyweight title, and three long years in the wilderness followed, along with public recrimination and hate from millions of Americans who saw Ali as a draft dodger who wouldn’t serve his country.

But after Ali’s boxing license was reinstated in 1970, he began a comeback that captivated the attention of the public.

Part of the fascination with the boxer’s return was that he had clearly lost a step, which made him an underdog, a position he had not experienced since his first title bout with Sonny Liston.

His speed was the first casualty of his suspension from boxing, which left him vulnerable to punches from opponents.

He lost to heavyweight champion Joe Frazier in March 1971, a fight many consider one of the greatest in boxing history.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2666760-beloved-athletes-who-were-once-hated

Muhammad Ali's courage lives on, but who will follow his path?

"Jim Brown says Ali didn't go from America's most hated athlete to its most beloved until he lost the ability to speak."

Can you imagine if Ali had been able to speak out clearly for all these years, to define himself until closer to the end? Can you imagine Ali more forcefully delivering his message of inclusion to a presidential candidate running on a platform built partly around banning ******s and Mexicans?

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/muhammad-ali-death-legacy-lebron-james