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  • MulaKO
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    #21
    Originally posted by lopetego
    Usyk would school Wilder for 12 rounds and make him look like a drunk trying to hit a piņata, Usyk by UD



    It will look like the Szpilka fight, except the part where he gets caught with a hail mary punch and KO'd

    Usyk is levels and levels above Szpilka and Wilder in boxing ability

    He's better technical boxer than Fury too, for that matter

    he'd see Wilder's basic, wide looping right hands coming from a mile away and dodge them better than Fury did


    Yup ,I gotta agree with this
    Usyk will make him look very plain and amateurish
    Won’t be easy to watch imo
    Not so sure about Usyk beating Fury , thinking Fury will make this a very dirty fight , crossing all barriers to make it physically impossible for Usyk to get some respect
    I like Usyk but in all reality I find he’s to small to compete with guys who got 60 pounds on him

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #22
      Usyk does not have a better Jab at heavyweight than Deontay Wilder. Wilder has the second best Jab in the heavyweight division, this is aspect of his game 'People do not want to acknowledge, due to the stereotypes of him not being able to box'.

      There is only two fighters who have been able to get into a jabbing contest with Tyson Fury, and those fighters are Wladimir Kiltschko and Deontay Wilder.

      Usyk will find this fight difficult, because he is not going to dominate from distance like people are trying to make out.

      Anthony Joshua for a super-heavyweight, has a way below par jab 'It can be better'. I find Joshua's jab to lack urgency, and destructive intent.

      But Usyk was being hit with Joshua's jab.

      So from a distance, I think Wilder's jab will give Uysk issues. Usyk will have to set a high work rate in this fight, because with single punches? He is not going to stop Wilder in his tracks, or hurt him so bad 'That he does not want to engage'. When Wilder is hit, it will only merely anger him and make him wildly aggressive.

      Usyk for me struggles to fight on the inside, he is a primarily long range to mid-range fighter. Why are these factors being mentioned? It is at long range and mid-range, where Deontay Wilder does most of his damage. It is within these ranges, were his punching power can change a fighters career.

      As the ranges are closed down on Wilder, his punching power and destructiveness begin to decrease. That is why Tyson Fury fought Wilder the way he did, but can Usyk fight that kind of fight? Is Usyk going to push Wilder about? Is Usyk going to make things chaotic and messy? Is Usyk going to have the inner Constitution to, push down that apprehension of what could happen to him and just attack Wilder? I have not seen any evidence, that he is that type of fighter 'Not to the level that Tyson Fury is etc'.

      So to conclude, if the Deontay Wilder that fought Tyson Fury was fighting Usyk 'I think Wilder wins'.

      Uysk gets hit by everyone he steps inside the ring with, he is getting hit at some point by Deontay Wilder.







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        #23
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        Usyk does not have a better Jab at heavyweight than Deontay Wilder. Wilder has the second best Jab in the heavyweight division, this is aspect of his game 'People do not want to acknowledge, due to the stereotypes of him not being able to box'.

        There is only two fighters who have been able to get into a jabbing contest with Tyson Fury, and those fighters are Wladimir Kiltschko and Deontay Wilder.

        Usyk will find this fight difficult, because he is not going to dominate from distance like people are trying to make out.

        Anthony Joshua for a super-heavyweight, has a way below par jab 'It can be better'. I find Joshua's jab to lack urgency, and destructive intent.

        But Usyk was being hit with Joshua's jab.

        So from a distance, I think Wilder's jab will give Uysk issues. Usyk will have to set a high work rate in this fight, because with single punches? He is not going to stop Wilder in his tracks, or hurt him so bad 'That he does not want to engage'. When Wilder is hit, it will only merely anger him and make him wildly aggressive.

        Usyk for me struggles to fight on the inside, he is a primarily long range to mid-range fighter. Why are these factors being mentioned? It is at long range and mid-range, where Deontay Wilder does most of his damage. It is within these ranges, were his punching power can change a fighters career.

        As the ranges are closed down on Wilder, his punching power and destructiveness begin to decrease. That is why Tyson Fury fought Wilder the way he did, but can Usyk fight that kind of fight? Is Usyk going to push Wilder about? Is Usyk going to make things chaotic and messy? Is Usyk going to have the inner Constitution to, push down that apprehension of what could happen to him and just attack Wilder? I have not seen any evidence, that he is that type of fighter 'Not to the level that Tyson Fury is etc'.

        So to conclude, if the Deontay Wilder that fought Tyson Fury was fighting Usyk 'I think Wilder wins'.

        Uysk gets hit by everyone he steps inside the ring with, he is getting hit at some point by Deontay Wilder.






        Perfect. Well done. The thread closes on this note. Head and shoulders above the others. A keen observer.

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          #24
          Originally posted by elfag
          AJ was afraid to throw, Wilder will not be afraid to get hit and to throw his own. Usyk is smart and knows he mostly only has a right hand at distance to worry about. Gun to my head you pick Usyk but he has the same issue everyone who faces Wilder has, they have to avoid the right hand for all 36 minutes of the fight. No fighter has been able to avoid it at all times. Fury was out for a few seconds. Then Wilder has only one other guy to go 12 with him and hes stopped him too. If Usyk decisions wilder without getting dropped he'd be the first fighter to never be hurt/dropped by wilder, so that is a big task.
          He dense have to avoid it 4 36 minutes, just 3 rounds before Wilder gasses out and dies in the 4th

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            #25
            Usyk would out box Wilder fairly easily. You're not going to beat an extremely talented,high IQ boxer like Usyk with only one punch in your repertoire.

            It's all moot though because Wilder is more than likely damaged goods after those 2 hellacious ass whoopings. Tyson pretty much "Baranchyk'd" that boy....
            Last edited by Sctrojan; 01-29-2022, 10:41 AM.

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              #26
              In fury 3 Wilder showed he doesn't have to land full power to do serious damage, he would hit Usyk with some short little shot when they get tangled up inside and Usyk's legs would have their controls inverted and Wilder would hit him with the death star superlaser right hand and Usyk goes nite nite.

              At the point it happens Usyk would be up 10-0 on the cards.

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                #27
                Originally posted by eco1

                He dense have to avoid it 4 36 minutes, just 3 rounds before Wilder gasses out and dies in the 4th
                Wilder has a good gas tank unless a 280lb 6'9" behemoth of a man is crushing him under his immense weight.

                Little Usyk would be dancing and trying to avoid the instant touch of death that is Wilders right hand, if Usyk tries to pressure Wilder might literally kill him with one punch. This isn't a frightened, timid, mentally ill AJ who suffers daily nightmares of Pudding Ruiz Jr we are talking about here.

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                • eco1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

                  Wilder has a good gas tank unless a 280lb 6'9" behemoth of a man is crushing him under his immense weight.

                  Little Usyk would be dancing and trying to avoid the instant touch of death that is Wilders right hand, if Usyk tries to pressure Wilder might literally kill him with one punch. This isn't a frightened, timid, mentally ill AJ who suffers daily nightmares of Pudding Ruiz Jr we are talking about here.
                  nope, it won't happen.
                  Usyk would win and by KO.

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                  • Dodger07
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                    #29
                    Usyk boxes circles around wilder for much of the fight. Due to Wilders power and determination, he scores a kd or two and lands some big punches sporadically throughout the fight. Usyk doesn't hit as hard or have the same size/physicality that fury does so he won't get the KO.

                    I'd say Usyk wins 9-3 with a 115-111 type score because of Wilders power

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                    • Earl-Hickey
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by eco1

                      nope, it won't happen.
                      Usyk would win and by KO.
                      Fury is the only man who can take wilders right hand.

                      At some point he will land on Usyk and Usyk gets carried out strapped to a gurney. Deal wiv it.

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