Comments Thread For: Russell: The Pound-For-Pound List Is A Popularity Contest, It's Not Based Upon Skill

[BodyBagz]

The only HW that has a sound argument for a P4P position in terms of skills and resume is Oleksandr Usyk, that clown Tyson Fury has been KO at least twice now ; but when A.J was dominating and had the best resume in the Heavyweight division I cant remember that he was ever mentioned in the P4P.

But I got TBC as #1., absolute domination, no controversial decisions and we all know that Josh Taylor would of never become 'undisputed' if 'Bud' had not vacated the jr. welterweight crown. I'm torn on #2. its Usyk or 'The Monster' Naoya Inoue, I'm leaning toward Oleksandr for the sensational masterclass performance he put on vs. A.J.

Usyk would get my HW vote if I thought HWs should qualify. He is able to fight in at least 2 divs.
Bud is dominating some poor opposition. If he fights and beats Spence, he would make the top 5.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The premise of this discussion is P4P, meaning excluding weight, all other factors being equal I say Gary Russell jr. decisions Josh Taylor, easy.

I know this guy is something in the UK but I see nothing in him personally. Very average skills. This guy doesn't belong in the top 10 best fighters in the world. It's a big joke.

[TheUptownKid]

I really like Russel. I think he is gritty and has really good boxing skills. I was surprised how easily Loma dismantled him. I’d like to see him fight the BIGGER NAMES. I think he can whip some of them.

Dismantled is a bit much. Loma won 8-4 but it wasn’t a ko, quit on the stool, Russell’s almost out type of beating. Loma won.

[TheUptownKid]

I know this guy is something in the UK but I see nothing in him personally. Very average skills. This guy doesn't belong in the top 10 best fighters in the world. It's a big joke.

Naw Taylor is talented and after the top say 7-8 they super elite level drops off a bit. I agree with him being there

[tokon]

If Haymon was going to let LSC fight Russell that fight would have already happened.

Yes, you're correct. It was a tongue in cheek comment. Thanks.

[1hourRun]

Usyk would get my HW vote if I thought HWs should qualify. He is able to fight in at least 2 divs.
Bud is dominating some poor opposition. If he fights and beats Spence, he would make the top 5.

Fair enough, but the fact that 'Bud' is the betting favorite over Errol Spence jr. is very telling, for a man that some claim needs a better resume its startling that he is the pick in Vegas over top 5 P4P Errol Spence jr.

You did note what prompted me to induct Oleksandr in my P4P, the leap in weight and dominance over A.J is what P4P is really all about.

I know this guy is something in the UK but I see nothing in him personally. Very average skills. This guy doesn't belong in the top 10 best fighters in the world. It's a big joke.

Bro, I think Gervonta Davis is too low on the P4P, we both know that 'Tank' is better than Josh Taylor in all departments. There is no way that Gervonta sleeps on his defense and gets cheap-shot by Taylor like Jose Ramirez.

[BodyBagz]

Fair enough, but the fact that 'Bud' is the betting favorite over Errol Spence jr. is very telling, for a man that some claim needs a better resume its startling that he is the pick in Vegas over top 5 P4P Errol Spence jr.

You did note what prompted me to induct Oleksandr in my P4P, the leap in weight and dominance over A.J is what P4P is really all about.

Fantasy fight winners are just that until they square off.
I'm picking Spence here in a close but clear UD.

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Fantasy fight winners are just that until they square off.
I'm picking Spence here in a close but clear UD.

I think you get better odds that Errol leaves the welterweight division this year than him beating TBC

[BodyBagz]

I think you get better odds that Errol leaves the welterweight division this year than him beating TBC

Wouldn't be because he's shook of Bud. If they are unable to reach a % agreement (I think Spence should get the bigger piece of the pie), Spence or Bud may move up. They can both move up but I don't think they will at the same time. Whoever stays will want to capture the relinquished belt(s) and unify before moving up.

I like Spence's calmness over Bud's aggression.

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Wouldn't be because he's shook of Bud. If they are unable to reach a % agreement (I think Spence should get the bigger piece of the pie), Spence or Bud may move up. They can both move up but I don't think they will at the same time. Whoever stays will want to capture the relinquished belt(s) and unify before moving up.

I like Spence's calmness over Bud's aggression.

Initially, your idea of TBC or Errol Spence jr. unifying after their chief rival moves up, appealed to me. But on second thought, it would only serve to water down Terence Crawford second 'undisputed' reign, like before at 140 -- which many till this day use as a argument to diminish Crawford, claiming that it was a weak division, in this scenario that 'Bud' never beat Spence and thus his reign would be considered trivial -- like Josh Taylor's.