Hope they blacklist Crawford

[w1cked]

Yes but Crawford is not willing to do the things Duckweather did in terms of being an attention whore. So why is he complaining if he does not put in the effort ? Why stay in Omaha and not move to Vegas and showoff on Instagram ? He is not willing to put into that kind of effort but Bob made him a millionaire in the meantime.

100%. Crawford is lazier than a mofo when it comes to promoting himself, he basically relied fully on Arum/Top Rank to do all the promoting for him.

Even Mayweather, Oscar, Manny, and Cotto didn't just let Arum/Top Rank do all the promoting, they went out there and engaged with people, and eventually found their niche to how to promote themselves.

[Marchegiano]

Yes but Crawford is not willing to do the things Duckweather did in terms of being an attention whore. So why is he complaining if he does not put in the effort ? Why stay in Omaha and not move to Vegas and showoff on Instagram ? He is not willing to put into that kind of effort but Bob made him a millionaire in the meantime.

Mayweather didn't prior to leaving Arum either.

Money is not an Arum promoted talent

PBF was the Arum promoted talent.

Besides that, I'm not claiming Crawford will do **** without Bob. I am claiming Bob ain't done **** for no one not named Arum.

[Jsmooth9876]

I didn't defend bud. I attacked Bob. There's a difference.

There is no convincing me Arum is good for boxing

There is no convincing me it's beneficial for fans to support Arum.

If the full extent of what you want to talk about is Bud's not going to do much if any better without Bob then you should probably pack it in because I hardly give any ****s about Bud. He's a talent, that's it. Bob's not a talent, not a benefit, not anything but a drag on the sport. I have 0 reasons to give any ****s about Bob Arum and no position on Crawford will change that because I hardly give a **** about Terrence too.

IMO no promoters are good for boxing. All they do is get in the way of us seeing great fights.

[Marchegiano]

IMO no promoters are good for boxing. All they do is get in the way of us seeing great fights.

Good for boxing? Yeah i can agree there, good for the fans is different though.

Don King

Fans hate on him because he screwed boxers to get the fights we wanted. That **** makes sense.

Fans love Bob because he overpays fighters to sit on a shelf and gather dust while big money fights pass them up. Also makes just a ton of sense.


Tex Rickard, good promoter

Richard Foxx, bad promoter

Both racist ****s, but, one of them brought the fans great fights and the other helped shelf fighters and made them linger in lower ranks.

It's really not hard to identify the good promoters from the bad ones. If you have two, X and Y, and they both promote the champions, all champions are split between X and Y. X has his champions fight one another and makes high profile fighters from the high profile fights. Y uses the names of the fighters to sell fights against no-hopers while lining the undercard with dudes no one has ever heard of. Better for the sport? debateable. Better for the fans? Not so much a debate is it.

[Jsmooth9876]

Good for boxing? Yeah i can agree there, good for the fans is different though.

Don King

Fans hate on him because he screwed boxers to get the fights we wanted. That **** makes sense.

Fans love Bob because he overpays fighters to sit on a shelf and gather dust while big money fights pass them up. Also makes just a ton of sense.


Tex Rickard, good promoter

Richard Foxx, bad promoter

Both racist ****s, but, one of them brought the fans great fights and the other helped shelf fighters and made them linger in lower ranks.

It's really not hard to identify the good promoters from the bad ones. If you have two, X and Y, and they both promote the champions, all champions are split between X and Y. X has his champions fight one another and makes high profile fighters from the high profile fights. Y uses the names of the fighters to sell fights against no-hopers while lining the undercard with dudes no one has ever heard of. Better for the sport? debateable. Better for the fans? Not so much a debate is it.

Bob Arum has been involved in some of the biggest fights in boxing history. TR wouldn't still be around and as strong as they are if they were that bad st their jobs let's be honest

Arum may be a racist pig who knows but apparntly he runs a good buisness over there

[tritium_arma]

Are you saying to cancel Bud now that he’s trying to cancel Arum?

[Idunnoshet]

I appreciate it bud. Sometimes you got to make people cry. Provocation is notice around here.



I do not see how that isn't covered. I used terms like "he feels" for a reason bud. I was honestly trying to be neutral on Bud's bit, just stating his position, and then tear Arum up because he's getting way too much protection and support from fans who don't really like Arum they just got triggered by another race angle. I got a few posts in lounge atm speaking to what I think of the 100 million ****ing race threads here, I really don't give a ****.

My giving Bobby the business has nothing to do with Bud. I had to dip into other careers and events to do it for the same reason I qualified Bud's position with "he feels", I don't know or care enough about Bud to keep the focus on just Bud-Bob, I know enough about Bob to know any boxing fan supporting him is a dumb ****, no offense.



I won't eat crow because I didn't claim Arum is holding him back

Youse guys got like 2 routes you can take now

1 Yer too ****** to understand why I kicked it off with "He Feels"

2 So emotional it registered but you don't give a ****.

So, take your pick, I don't care which you are, but what you just said to me isn't even a ****ing response to what I said to you and now I feel exactly the same way as I do when the old lady got an issue....That's loosely relative at best and other than attitude I can't figure out what you think you are arguing about.

Reread the post or go cry in the corner, I give 0 ****s.

He feels, I think the allegation is ..... Are you that ****ing ****** or that ****ing whiney?



See that post above where I tell el he argues like a female?

The **** do you want me to tell you? Yes? There is **** all contradictory here except attitude.

Let me reword it for you:

Oh yeah bud, you're right, Floyd did say prior to leaving Arum that Arum is holding him back, then Floyd left Arum, totally changed his promotional package, and made himself the richest athlete of all time.
Proving what exactly? He was right?

Yup.




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Y'all crying about Crawford sure showed me. Jeez-oh Bob Arum has done so much for this sport? Wait....what's that? Not a single one of you ****s came to prove Bob's worth a **** you just mistook he feels X and I think his position is Y as support for Bud huh?

So if my point was Bob Arum is **** what did you do to change that or even address it? **** all? Exactly, Bob Arum is a **** scumwad who ought to be removed from the sport. At least King got us fights ya dumb ****ers.

Fair enough. Respect

[Marchegiano]

Bob Arum has been involved in some of the biggest fights in boxing history. TR wouldn't still be around and as strong as they are if they were that bad st their jobs let's be honest

Arum may be a racist pig who knows but apparntly he runs a good buisness over there

Fair enough. Respect

Cheers bud

Bob Arum has been involved in some of the biggest fights in boxing history. TR wouldn't still be around and as strong as they are if they were that bad st their jobs let's be honest

Arum may be a racist pig who knows but apparntly he runs a good buisness over there

Floyd-Pac still counts as "one of the biggest fights in history" I think it might even be the single biggest.

Not exactly a part of Arum's career I'd detail if I was going to write a positive spin on said career.

Or to say that differently, if my claim is he's delayed every major fight he possibly could have at the determent of his fighters, then, him being a part of them is not a contradiction, is it? It's right in the criticism, yes, he is a part of every major fight he delayed.

Par for the course for Arum is Bud-Spence happens when they're both near retirement. It's still be a big fight....still an example of him being **** for boxing.

[Jsmooth9876]

Cheers bud



Floyd-Pac still counts as "one of the biggest fights in history" I think it might even be the single biggest.

Not exactly a part of Arum's career I'd detail if I was going to write a positive spin on said career.

Or to say that differently, if my claim is he's delayed every major fight he possibly could have at the determent of his fighters, then, him being a part of them is not a contradiction, is it? It's right in the criticism, yes, he is a part of every major fight he delayed.

Par for the course for Arum is Bud-Spence happens when they're both near retirement. It's still be a big fight....still an example of him being **** for boxing.

Why is Arum getting all the blame from you for SpenceCrawford not getting done ? Is he the only one involved? I haven't seen the other side making any moves to get the fight done either

Bottom line is all the promoters make the fights when it suits their guys. There are no Fernando Vargas types out there anymore. He fought s murderers row and it was probably to his detriment at the time taking all those fights against elite guys all the time but he wanted the fights so they got done. It takes 2 to tango. If Spence AND Crawford wanted the fight so bad it would have got done already.

[tritium_arma]

Let me guess, now that he’s no longer with Arum the Spence fight still won’t happen.