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  • Boxing fan1981
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    #21
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    He has said and has now chosen to do something really fkking ****** but I was and will remain a fan. He isn't being anti white or anything he has just either been blinded by frustration or been advised extremely badly by some total tool.

    Either way he sounds like one of these dumb victim mode morons like Big Dunn but he's still the classiest Boxer on the planet and I'm a Boxing fan. Wouldn't miss one of his fights for the world.
    Big Woke Dunn is signing up to volunteer his time for free. He’s down for the woke cause apparently.

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    • Idunnoshet
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      #22
      Im against the whole woke movement but I'll still watch Crawford fight ( not on PPV ).
      I won't root for him because I've met him in person and he's an a**hole.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #23
        Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

        Stevenson just fought for a title so he got a shot already, it's not like he's sitting around fighting stiffs still.
        To be fair, Valdez vs Navarrete is a good scrap also and the winner fighting Stevenson would be big later this year. Valdez team may also just not want the fight right now . If Bob has options we all know he's gonna string stuff along and make 4 fights instead of 1 matching people up the long way before getting to the fight we really want. I think Stevenson will be fine, he has a few options at 130 and if he moves to 135 he will have Loma, Davis, and possibly Kambosos still there in a years time. 2 of those fights I think can get done and if Loma somehow gets all the belts back it would be a huge fight late 2023
        I agree with this for the most part but you should try and see it from another point of view.

        Shakur and Bob have a signed co tract so Bob pays him for what he earns. Having him fight that awkward dude and then Herring allows Bob to lower the purses because those opponents are not big.

        By not forcing the Valdez fight he lowers shakur a purse, prevents him from having the big fight to propel him ( because taking Valdez 0 would resonate along boxing fans)yet gives that fight to another man.

        not saying this is the case but when you look at it it’s a fair question.

        Bob did work with stevenson prior to this and promoted him well imo. That doesn’t mean you can’t question the decision to not make the best fight at 130 that can be made.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #24
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          He has said and has now chosen to do something really fkking ****** but I was and will remain a fan. He isn't being anti white or anything he has just either been blinded by frustration or been advised extremely badly by some total tool.

          Either way he sounds like one of these dumb victim mode morons like Big Dunn but he's still the classiest Boxer on the planet and I'm a Boxing fan. Wouldn't miss one of his fights for the world.
          When have I advocated for wokeness? Whose in victim mode other than you and any other non black poster upset that Crawford exercised his rights as a citizen?

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

            Big Woke Dunn is signing up to volunteer his time for free. He’s down for the woke cause apparently.
            No I just found what you posted complete and utter bullshit and called you out on it.

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            • TernceBudCharlo
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              #26
              What does being woke have anything to do with Terence Crawford???

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              • Jsmooth9876
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                #27
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                I agree with this for the most part but you should try and see it from another point of view.

                Shakur and Bob have a signed co tract so Bob pays him for what he earns. Having him fight that awkward dude and then Herring allows Bob to lower the purses because those opponents are not big.

                By not forcing the Valdez fight he lowers shakur a purse, prevents him from having the big fight to propel him ( because taking Valdez 0 would resonate along boxing fans)yet gives that fight to another man.

                not saying this is the case but when you look at it it’s a fair question.

                Bob did work with stevenson prior to this and promoted him well imo. That doesn’t mean you can’t question the decision to not make the best fight at 130 that can be made.
                Yeah but can he force the fight? If Valdez don't want it what can they do? Navarrete is a tough kid but he is not as talented as Stevenson so I'm sure Valdez and his team prefer that fight over the Stevenson fight

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                • DaNeutral.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  When have I advocated for wokeness? Whose in victim mode other than you and any other non black poster upset that Crawford exercised his rights as a citizen?
                  You are in a serious deep victim mode sir. If anybody has anything negative to say about a single black person then it must be racism, it can't possibly be anything else to you it has to be related to racism.

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                  • PBR Streetgang
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                    #29
                    I wouldn't say I'm a Crawford fan but I enjoy watching him fight. I don't think I've ever not watched a fighter because of something they've said not have I not watched an actor for the same.

                    As for Crawford's comments and lawsuit against Top Rank, I could care less. In contentious legal proceedings, alot of nasty things are said and done...some true and some not. I will let the legal process handle that business and determine the merit of the arguments.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DaNeutral.

                      You are in a serious deep victim mode sir. If anybody has anything negative to say about a single black person then it must be racism, it can't possibly be anything else to you it has to be related to racism.
                      I only called out 2 people- el maldito Rey and boxing fan 1981. I’ve called you and some others out in the past.

                      Jsmooth and I dont agree and I haven’t called him a racist. Cryotocryphy same.

                      Stop the over exaggerating defense. Will not work.

                      Bottom line is if you think all black fans criticism of canelo is race based or you pass judgement on this lawsuit without seeing the facts solely out of being against “woke culture “ then you have earned being called a racist because that is the only plausible reason for doing either.

                      The sad thing is you clearly get this but want to defend yourself because you also think all canelo criticism from black fans is raced based while defending any and all criticisms made by non black posters.

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