Rick Glaser: Ortiz vs Charles Martin PPV did less than 25k

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So you believe it's an error. That makes everything else an error.

Also, Fury is only worth £28m - stop posting fake numbers.

Well more sources claim the higher number maybe after he has finished his contract who knows still a hell of a lot more than Whyte as i said the following matters Whyte isn't popular and you aren't even a Whyte fan or believe the **** you typing, only reason you doing this is because he has took over AJs spot seek help man.

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Well more sources claim the higher number maybe after he has finished his contract who knows still a hell of a lot more than Whyte as i said the following matters Whyte isn't popular and you aren't even a Whyte fan or believe the **** you typing, only reason you doing this is because he has took over AJs spot seek help man.

Fury can NEVER make what AJ has made in boxing even if he fights until age 60. AJ's career earnings is over £250m and that's without releasing a book and a lot of other things he can still do. Fury's career earnings is just slightly over £40m despite claims he has taken over AJ's spot for almost 2 yrs now and him releasing like 3 books, lol.

AJ, Canelo, Mayweather and Pacman are where no current boxer can get to financially. Those guys were born to make money.

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Fury can NEVER make what AJ has made in boxing even if he fights until age 60. AJ's career earnings is over £250m and that's without releasing a book and a lot of other things he can still do. Fury's career earnings is just slightly over £40m despite claims he has taken over AJ's spot for almost 2 yrs now and him releasing like 3 books, lol.

AJ, Canelo, Mayweather and Pacman are where no current boxer can get to financially. Those guys were born to make money.

Yeah i agree with that fair play to AJ all up in the commercials all up in reality tv he has been promoted to the casuals brilliantly i respect the hustle too bad he turned out to be a bit of a fraud not a terrible boxer but never lived up to the hype worthy of the financials god bless hearn but that doesn't matter i meant take his spot as being top of the heavyweight division while AJ is now what 3/4th? We talking about Whyte vs Fury when it comes to finances two different issues.

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This is pretty interesting and I'm sure PBC will claim it did 150k at $40, lol.

Canelo vs Plant - 600k
Fury vs Wilder 3 - less than 150k

Don't forget Stephen Espinoza said its all about being on the right platform. So what went wrong here? What about Tanks fight that bombed? Same platform?

[Rip Chudd]

These numbers reflect the economic times we're in. People struggling. They find ways to watch entertainment for free. Expecting huge numbers is like fooling yourself we're still in the pre-Amazon.com days.

Or it reflects that two virtually unknown heavyweights were put on PPV with little to no promotion when the fight should have been on regular Fox Sports where millions could have seen it.

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Yeah i agree with that fair play to AJ all up in the commercials all up in reality tv he has been promoted to the casuals brilliantly i respect the hustle too bad he turned out to be a bit of a fraud not a terrible boxer but never lived up to the hype worthy of the financials god bless hearn but that doesn't matter i meant take his spot as being top of the heavyweight division while AJ is now what 3/4th? We talking about Whyte vs Fury when it comes to finances two different issues.

What you muppets who belong to the "Fury has taken AJ's spot" crowd don't understand is that Fury can NEVER take AJ's spot because they mostly appeal to two different fan bases. AJ didn't get to where he got to because of how he was managed - he got there based on his talent, his looks and how he carries himself. Half of his fan base are women of all ages and a large chunk of the rest are middle/upper class Brits who don't find anything about Fury appealing. There's classism in the UK and Fury doesn't appeal to certain classes of Brits. That's the TRUTH.

Hearn has nothing to do with AJ's star power from getting Skysports to put down money for Martin fight and becoming a world champ added more to his credentials. AJ was already famous as an amateur when he started getting TV exposure due to his looks with the ladies. Winning gold took it to the next level. All the happened before Hearn. Hearn actually ruined him due to his greed and AJ would've been bigger by crossing over to the US and being as big out there with a better and more experienced promoter. But that's a story for another day.

And you can't call him a fraud when he has done everything Fury is yet to do within half the time. He's unified twice and had multiple title defences. Fought 4x top-10 opponents than Fury. If he beat Usyk in the rematch - he's back at the top of the division again.

Financially - Fury and AJ don't belong in the same sentence. And Fury can't take AJ fans because he lacks the looks and appeal women and certain classes of Brits like. Two different people and two different fan bases in the country. AJ should cross the £500m mark by the time his career is over in 2-3 yrs if he wins the rematch. Fury can never get close to half of that number

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What you muppets who belong to the "Fury has taken AJ's spot" crowd don't understand is that Fury can NEVER take AJ's spot because they mostly appeal to two different fan bases. AJ didn't get to where he got to because of how he was managed - he got there based on his talent, his looks and how he carries himself. Half of his fan base are women of all ages and a large chunk of the rest are middle/upper class Brits who don't find anything about Fury appealing. There's classism in the UK and Fury doesn't appeal to certain classes of Brits. That's the TRUTH.

Hearn has nothing to do with AJ's star power from getting Skysports to put down money for Martin fight and becoming a world champ added more to his credentials. AJ was already famous as an amateur when he started getting TV exposure due to his looks with the ladies. Winning gold took it to the next level. All the happened before Hearn. Hearn actually ruined him due to his greed and AJ would've been bigger by crossing over to the US and being as big out there with a better and more experienced promoter. But that's a story for another day.

And you can't call him a fraud when he has done everything Fury is yet to do within half the time. He's unified twice and had multiple title defences. Fought 4x top-10 opponents than Fury. If he beat Usyk in the rematch - he's back at the top of the division again.

Financially - Fury and AJ don't belong in the same sentence. And Fury can't take AJ fans because he lacks the looks and appeal women and certain classes of Brits like. Two different people and two different fan bases in the country. AJ should cross the £500m mark by the time his career is over in 2-3 yrs if he wins the rematch. Fury can never get close to half of that number

What talent though honestly? as i say he isn't a bad boxer he's decent but he's stiff af, doesn't have much of a chin and little heart he has made too much money and it's gone against him he no longer has the drive when he's in a bad spot in the ring he's thinking about sitting there nice and cosey in his mansion with his butlers Fury doesn't live like that so he hasn't gone soft like AJ, too bad AJs persona is fake though that mr humble thing is a character mate it's not real just the usual thing people are easily to fool and manipulate. Fury has his issues i don't like everything he says or does but least i know who he is unlike AJ.

I can call him a fraud because all of his elite opponents have been past it by the time he got there and Klitschko nearly did him in where as Fury didn't even get marked AJ relies on his size too much his actual ring IQ/ability isn't that great why don't we just be honest about it.

I already agreed AJ is worth more and probably always will be but i never brought that up you did i said he took his spot in the heavyweight division i never mentioned taking his spot financially that's not relevant to the topic considering we talking about Whyte vs Fury on the money side. If AJ manages to beat Usyk this time then i will cut him some slack if he gives up like last time then he's no warrior.

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What talent though honestly? as i say he isn't a bad boxer he's decent but he's stiff af, doesn't have much of a chin and little heart he has made too much money and it's gone against him he no longer has the drive when he's in a bad spot in the ring he's thinking about sitting there nice and cosey in his mansion with his butlers Fury doesn't live like that so he hasn't gone soft like AJ, too bad AJs persona is fake though that mr humble thing is a character mate it's not real just the usual thing people are easily to fool and manipulate. Fury has his issues i don't like everything he says or does but least i know who he is unlike AJ.

I can call him a fraud because all of his elite opponents have been past it by the time he got there and Klitschko nearly did him in where as Fury didn't even get marked AJ relies on his size too much his actual ring IQ/ability isn't that great why don't we just be honest about it.

I already agreed AJ is worth more and probably always will be but i never brought that up you did i said he took his spot in the heavyweight division i never mentioned taking his spot financially that's not relevant to the topic considering we talking about Whyte vs Fury on the money side. If AJ manages to beat Usyk this time then i will cut him some slack if he gives up like last time then he's no warrior.

Talent is when you become a unified champ in 20 fights as a pro despite having little or no amateur background. No other HW in history has done it.

Your hero, Fury, was fighting a bricklayer in his 20th fight as a pro. And Wilder was called a baby by his manager after his 35 fight as a pro. Both Fury and Wilder are yet to unify and it’s their 14th year as pro - AJ did it in 4 yrs as a pro.

That’s what you call talent. And he’s already in the boxing hall of fame even if he decides to retire today.

Tyson Fury is a BUM!

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in the 80s/90s, most boxers didnt earn much more than a living and only the cream of the crop, the elite earned big money.
On that, it's why i get annoyed at Mike Tyson and Holyfield desperately clinging on to boxing and trying to con more fans. They got all the bread in their day and spunked it all.

These days the ppv revenue is diluted. al haymon is trying to please everyone. if he was a promoter he'd be ruthless...but he is an advisor designed to protect each guy financially and so he does his bit putting many of them on ppv cards knwing when they do crap numbers it is on them and he cant be blamed.

the way it's meant to happen is you create 3-4 absolute ppv superstars only in the divisions...
HW, MW, WW and maybe LW due to the popularity of tank.
eg at HW, you cant have both ruiz and wilder both doing their own ppv fights, let alone ortiz aswell...there can only be one king of ppv's there and that's whoever wins. you can have ruiz vs wilder as ppv and the loser cant be ppv ever again. ortiz shouldnt be ppv.
the only way around this is to lower the ppv fee like in the UK where it's £20.

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Talent is when you become a unified champ in 20 fights as a pro despite having little or no amateur background. No other HW in history has done it.

Your hero, Fury, was fighting a bricklayer in his 20th fight as a pro. And Wilder was called a baby by his manager after his 35 fight as a pro. Both Fury and Wilder are yet to unify and it’s their 14th year as pro - AJ did it in 4 yrs as a pro.

That’s what you call talent. And he’s already in the boxing hall of fame even if he decides to retire today.

Tyson Fury is a BUM!

He got fast tracked to the title because of the hype as i said very carefully managed manufactured right place right time, Who has AJ beaten who wasn't old and past it? only people i can think of is Whyte and Parker? he's just lucky Fury was retired or he never would of gotten them belts. I don't even care man we seen in the ring AJ quitting several times smiling like a twat while he's heads getting knocked off his shoulders. The dude has gone soft how can you not see that?