Rick Glaser: Ortiz vs Charles Martin PPV did less than 25k

[Stuart Chandler]

If Fury was to fight in the UK vs a decent opponent he would outsell Whyte for sure his profile has grown rapidly since the trilogy and his stint in the WWE even casuals who don't watch boxing know who he is. As i said it's not purely based on ppv sales u can put ppv sales for 5 dollars and get millions when it comes to the money involved Fury is in a different league. Lets compare purses shall we.

Career Earnings Dillian Whyte in Boxing
Opponents	Purse Money	PPV Share	Fight Year
Brian Minto	$400,000	N/A	2015
Anthony Joshua	$1 million	40%	2015
Dereck Chisora	£1 million	50%	2016
Ian Lewison	£450,000	N/A	2016
David Allen	£400,000	N/A	2016
Malcolm Tann	£500,000	N/A	2017
Robert Helenius	£500,000	N/A	2017
Lucas Browne	£800,000	60%	2018
Joseph Parker	£1 million	50%	2018
Dereck Chisora	£1 million	50%	2018
Óscar Rivas	£1 million	60%	2019
Mariusz Wach	£1.5 million	60%	2019
Alexander Povetkin	£4 million	50%	2020
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2021
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2022

Tyson Fury Career Earnings & Purse Money Payouts
Boxers	Guaranteed Purse	PPV Share	Fight Year
Wladimir Klitschko	£5 million	50%	2015
Dereck Chisora	$12 million	60%	2014
Christian Hammer	$5 million	N/A	2015
Sefer Seferi	$2 million	N/A	2018
Chris Arreola	$2.5 million	N/A	2018
Deontay Wilder	$3 million	50%	2018
Tom Schwarz	£7 million	60%	2019
Otto Wallin	£10 million	60%	2019
Deontay Wilder	£7 million	50%	2020
Deontay Wilder	£10 million	55%	2021
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2022
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2023

Some of those numbers are wrong by at least a million which moves closer to Whytes numbers . But we’re going on recent numbers , like I said Fury fought in title fights in a ESPN contract . That doesn’t mean his value is more in the U.K clearly he’s not 80% more then Whyte . You also left out Povetkin second fight .

Fury made 6/7 million in the third fight with Wilder , Whyte made 4 million against Povetkin in a non title fight . Where do you think there’s contrasting differences there ? I know your trying to make it look like a vast difference but it isn’t .

Fighter	Purse Earnings	PPV Split Bonus	Year
Bela Gyongyosi	$12,000	50/50	2008
John McDermott	$80,000	50/50	2009
Steve Cunningham	$400,000	N/A	2013
Joey Abell	$2,000,000	50%	2014
Dereck Chisora	$12,000,000	60%	2014
Christian Hammer	$4,000,000	50%	2014
Wladimir Klitschko	$6,000,000	50%	2015
Sefer Seferi	$1,000,000	N/A	2018
Chris Arreola	$1,500,000	N/A	2018
Deontay Wilder	$7,000,000	50%	2018
Tom Schwarz	$3,000,000	60%	2019
Otto Wallin	$1,000,000	60%	2019
Deontay Wilder	$28,000,000	50%	2020
(TBC) Deontay Wilder	$30,000,000	60/40	2021

[Kzbox]

[QUOTE=Stuart Chandler;n31260430]

Some of those numbers are wrong by at least a million which moves closer to Whytes numbers . But we’re going on recent numbers , like I said Fury fought in title fights in a ESPN contract . That doesn’t mean his value is more in the U.K clearly he’s not 80% more then Whyte . You also left out Povetkin second fight .

Fury made 6/7 million in the third fight with Wilder , Whyte made 4 million against Povetkin in a non title fight . Where do you think there’s contrasting differences there ? I know your trying to make it look like a vast difference but it isn’t . [TABLE]

I didn't leave it out it just wasn't on the database not much i can do about that how do you know the purses to say its off by a million? His value is clearly more than Whytes now as i said anybody saying otherwise is delusional af. Purses, viewing figures on youtube, followers on social media what more proof will you accept? as i said this is just bs to hate on Fury nobody even liked Whyte before he now suddenly has a lot of fans. You're entitled to your opinion man it's just a ****** one that's all. He only got that 4m payday because of Povetkin as well tbf he has a bit of a name for himself. Before Fury wilder wasn't even that well known Fury got 10m for ****ing Wallin lmao no point going around in circles you're never gonna admit you're wrong anyway wasted effort.

[Stuart Chandler]

[QUOTE=Kzbox;n31260439]

Some of those numbers are wrong by at least a million which moves closer to Whytes numbers . But we’re going on recent numbers , like I said Fury fought in title fights in a ESPN contract . That doesn’t mean his value is more in the U.K clearly he’s not 80% more then Whyte . You also left out Povetkin second fight .

Fury made 6/7 million in the third fight with Wilder , Whyte made 4 million against Povetkin in a non title fight . Where do you think there’s contrasting differences there ? I know your trying to make it look like a vast difference but it isn’t . [TABLE]

I didn't leave it out it just wasn't on the database not much i can do about that how do you know the purses to say its off by a million? His value is clearly more than Whytes now as i said anybody saying otherwise is delusional af. Purses, viewing figures on youtube, followers on social media what more proof will you accept? as i said this is just bs to hate on Fury nobody even liked Whyte before he now suddenly has a lot of fans. You're entitled to your opinion man it's just a ****** one that's all. He only got that 4m payday because of Povetkin as well tbf he has a bit of a name for himself. Before Fury wilder wasn't even that well known Fury got 10m for ****ing Wallin lmao no point going around in circles you're never gonna admit you're wrong anyway wasted effort.

Wilder got known off of Joshua’s name not Furys first . Povetkin is not known in the U.K much how is it because of Povetkin ? Neither Fury or Wilder has done a successful PPV without one another . Whyte don’t need either because he sells in the U.K . Fury had to go out of his way and get an ESPN contract to guarantee him money that they lost big on . Fury got 10 million for Wallin because ESPN foolishly paid him a giant amount on his contract they never got back .80 million ?

[BangEM]

If Fury was to fight in the UK vs a decent opponent he would outsell Whyte for sure his profile has grown rapidly since the trilogy and his stint in the WWE even casuals who don't watch boxing know who he is. As i said it's not purely based on ppv sales u can put ppv sales for 5 dollars and get millions when it comes to the money involved Fury is in a different league. Lets compare purses shall we.

Career Earnings Dillian Whyte in Boxing
Opponents	Purse Money	PPV Share	Fight Year
Brian Minto	$400,000	N/A	2015
Anthony Joshua	$1 million	40%	2015
Dereck Chisora	£1 million	50%	2016
Ian Lewison	£450,000	N/A	2016
David Allen	£400,000	N/A	2016
Malcolm Tann	£500,000	N/A	2017
Robert Helenius	£500,000	N/A	2017
Lucas Browne	£800,000	60%	2018
Joseph Parker	£1 million	50%	2018
Dereck Chisora	£1 million	50%	2018
Óscar Rivas	£1 million	60%	2019
Mariusz Wach	£1.5 million	60%	2019
Alexander Povetkin	£4 million	50%	2020
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2021
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2022

Tyson Fury Career Earnings & Purse Money Payouts
Boxers	Guaranteed Purse	PPV Share	Fight Year
Wladimir Klitschko	£5 million	50%	2015
Dereck Chisora	$12 million	60%	2014
Christian Hammer	$5 million	N/A	2015
Sefer Seferi	$2 million	N/A	2018
Chris Arreola	$2.5 million	N/A	2018
Deontay Wilder	$3 million	50%	2018
Tom Schwarz	£7 million	60%	2019
Otto Wallin	£10 million	60%	2019
Deontay Wilder	£7 million	50%	2020
Deontay Wilder	£10 million	55%	2021
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2022
Upcoming Fight	N/A	N/A	2023

Fury got $12m for Chisora fight?

Throw that crappy list in the bin!

[Kzbox]

Fury got $12m for Chisora fight?

Throw that crappy list in the bin!

Their net worths reflect it man what can i say Fury is worth 80 - 120m dollars Whyte a measley 5m a few sources claim the same not much we can do but go from the information given. We all know Whyte isn't a household name or considered a seller look at his followings on social media very small doesn't get huge views on youtube unless he's insulting another boxer who is more popular than he is. Anybody advcating for Whyte to get 45% is a moron quite frankly as i said you can maybe claim 30% at a push. You will go against anything Fury says/does or has any part of so you can never give an unbiased opinion on matters regarding him you have shown your hand already too many times.

[Boxfan83]

I think there was also less than 25 people in attendance also.

[BangEM]

Their net worths reflect it man what can i say Fury is worth 80 - 120m dollars Whyte a measley 5m a few sources claim the same not much we can do but go from the information given. We all know Whyte isn't a household name or considered a seller look at his followings on social media very small doesn't get huge views on youtube unless he's insulting another boxer who is more popular than he is. Anybody advcating for Whyte to get 45% is a moron quite frankly as i said you can maybe claim 30% at a push. You will go against anything Fury says/does or has any part of so you can never give an unbiased opinion on matters regarding him you have shown your hand already too many times.

Do you actually believe Fury made twice what he made against Wlad in the Chisora fight?

I didn't read the rest of yer mental ramblings.

[Stuart Chandler]

Their net worths reflect it man what can i say Fury is worth 80 - 120m dollars Whyte a measley 5m a few sources claim the same not much we can do but go from the information given. We all know Whyte isn't a household name or considered a seller look at his followings on social media very small doesn't get huge views on youtube unless he's insulting another boxer who is more popular than he is. Anybody advcating for Whyte to get 45% is a moron quite frankly as i said you can maybe claim 30% at a push. You will go against anything Fury says/does or has any part of so you can never give an unbiased opinion on matters regarding him you have shown your hand already too many times.

Fury’s not worth 80 million that’s what he finagled Arum to get him . Fury can’t generate interest to make up for that money or any other perks he’s asking for . If he fought Whyte in the U.K and be reasonable he could do better but he’s trying to steal money that ESPN lost on him by insisting 80% of a pot he doesn’t create .

[Kzbox]

Do you actually believe Fury made twice what he made against Wlad in the Chisora fight?

I didn't read the rest of yer mental ramblings.

No i don't believe that clearly an error there because he thought Chisora before Wlad but the rest i believe isn't far off as i said Fury is a very rich man compared to Whyte who is a millionaire himself but not in the same league but what i do believe is Fury is a hell of a lot more popular and makes more money for promoters than Whyte. Mental ramblings? coming from an 8k poster in 2 years who does nothing but makes threads rambling about absolute bull**** and even lieng (150k ppvs Fury) talk out your arse to get your point across. You a schizophrenic sociopath one of them people who would lie while being caught red handed. You can live with your fantasys but out here in the real world Fury is richer, has a much bigger social media following 440k followers whyte and 5.4m for Fury just on instagram dude doesn't even have 10 percent of his following. You just can't stand Fury getting bigger and bigger as the years go well suck it up princess Fury is the boss now.

[BangEM]

No i don't believe that clearly an error there because he thought Chisora before Wlad but the rest i believe isn't far off as i said Fury is a very rich man compared to Whyte who is a millionaire himself but not in the same league but what i do believe is Fury is a hell of a lot more popular and makes more money for promoters than Whyte. Mental ramblings? coming from an 8k poster in 2 years who does nothing but makes threads rambling about absolute bull**** and even lieng (150k ppvs Fury) talk out your arse to get your point across. You a schizophrenic sociopath one of them people who would lie while being caught red handed. You can live with your fantasys but out here in the real world Fury is richer, has a much bigger social media following 440k followers whyte and 5.4m for Fury just on instagram dude doesn't even have 10 percent of his following. You just can't stand Fury getting bigger and bigger as the years go well suck it up princess Fury is the boss now.

So you believe it's an error. That makes everything else an error.

Also, Fury is only worth £28m - stop posting fake numbers.