Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor On Teofimo Lopez: He Was Never Undisputed In The First Place

[M312]

When Teo was asked about this fight a few months back he was saying he wanted a catchweight, so he didn't seem to believe he could beat Taylor at 140. His confidence is probably even lower after that defeat. Realistically, he's gonna sit back and wait until Taylor moves up and a bunch of vacant belts are available.

I saw the interview where he said this, but tbf, he said it thinking they can put all '7' belts on the line (we not going to count that Franchise BS). That was shot down, he basically didn't understand how the weight system worked lol

[1hourRun]

Lazy work 1inch****. Your PFP#1 hating of Josh Taylor usually has a bit more pizazz.

[richardt]

Josh Taylor, you need to stop ducking everybody. You wont be undisputed at 140 if you grow some nuts and fight Terence Crawford, chicken.

You are still parading your ******ity like it is a badge of honor. Taylor has one of the deepest resumes of any fighter on the planet with 18 fights and you talk about ducking everybody like the dumb sht you are. On top of that, Crawford is not a 140 pound fighter. And you have the nerve calling him a chicken when you're the one who cries woe is me when people get on your case and you even acted hopeless for days when a fighter who makes millions recently lost.

[petero]

Josh Taylor, you need to stop ducking everybody. You wont be undisputed at 140 if you grow some nuts and fight Terence Crawford, chicken.

Aww Elie you can do better than that. Them meds got you a little pickle brained. Your boy Temo is at the back of the queue after getting beat by Georgie. And beaten convincingly.

[Monty Fisto]

WRONG! You forgot to add "... by any recognized boxing organization.", pal. Because it's exactly them who "dispute" someone else's status of World Champion by embracing a champion of their own. If the champ has all 4 belts and all organizations call him full champion aka Undisputed then he is no matter what you or any body other cares to share his nobodycare-alike opinion.

And only in boxing (and MMA and so forth) there are idiots who don't understand the logic of the principles which they claim to protect.

Ah, you got me by typing 'wrong' in all caps. There's no coming back from that kind of bulletproof reasoning.

Except there is that nagging thought that Sulaiman never uses totally unequivocal language.

Until he definitively says the belt that Haney holds is not the champion's belt, then there are question marks. As long as Sulaiman equivocates by using terms like Kambosos deserves recognition as undisputed and puts out tweets that Haney is their champion, then by definition the matter is not settled. It's self evident that there is ambiguity, no matter how much you want to work yourself up over it. And where there is ambiguity, there is dispute.

You have Haney on twitter asking Sulaiman to make his belt Jr if it isn't the real one and order a mandatory against the 'real' one... And Sulaiman then tweeting out he is so proud of "Our WBC Boxing lightweight champion Devin Haney."

[Cypocryphy]

This is just bull****. Taylor needs to shut his face already with this "not undisputed" garbage. The only reason he's saying this is due to the fact that Haney and Josh share the same trainer, Ben Davison, and work together. That's the only reason he's saying this because he's helping Team Haney spread the propaganda. If Haney wasn't being trained by Davison, then Josh wouldn't even be pushing the narrative.

It's weak. STFU Taylor.

[PredatorStyle]

One win can't make you undisputed in a sense; then lose the very first title defense. That is a farce. The Haney belt is kind of anecdotal because Teo only beat Loma but not any of the others and since he was never able to defend it is probably wrong to say he was undisputed at all.

[aboutfkntime]

Depending on what your definition of undisputed is?
If undisputed is 3 titles + 1 designation (Franchise), then yes, Teo was undisputed but he was the only one cuz the other-real undisputed guys all have 4 titles, not just 3 titles + 1 designation.

stop making up dumb shlt

there is no " definition "... if a fighter does not hold all 4 major titles, then the division is disputed... end of story

the circumstances would need to be WAY different, to justify crowning Teo undisputed

1) Lopez only beat one guy, Lomachenko... its not like he cleaned out the division or anything

2) lightweight is shark infested waters... not only would Davis/Haney give Teo fits, they would likely be favored to beat him... and I would definitely back Lomachenko to win the rematch

3) it is totally unreasonable - and unrealistic - to ignore the WBC champ, he could be the best lightweight on the planet... there are WAY too many unanswered questions to even consider Teo "the man"... let alone, crown him the undisputed king of the division... Teo only beat one guy... and then wisely, refused to give Lomachenko a rematch

4) Kambosos beat Teo... which 100% proves my point that there are a LOT of unanswered questions at lightweight... how can you possibly award Teo the undisputed title, therefore insist that he was the best guy in the division, when he couldn't beat Kambosos?... Tank and Haney would pose Teo more problems than Kambosos did

5) beating Loma was a phenomenal achievement, but lightweight is stacked full of killers... right now, Kambosos has the exact SAME titles that Teo had... and he got those titles the exact SAME way that Teo did, by beating one guy... so if he has the SAME titles/achievements that Teo had... and, he actually beat Teo... then according to your methodology, he should be undisputed... right?

and I can tell you right now, Kambosos is NOT the best lightweight on the planet... I don't think he is in the top 3... Haney would beat him, and so would Davis... and he doesn't have the physical presence to pose Lomachenko the same kind of problems that Teo did

Kambosos is not undisputed, and neither was Teo




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[aboutfkntime]

Teo beat the man. He was undisputed in real boxing fans eyes. Period. Just as Kambo is.

that is total bullshlt

and if you think Kambosos is the best lightweight on the planet, you're nuts

FACT: the guy that you say was undisputed, therefore the best 135 lb'er... LOST, to a underdog that he was highly favored to beat






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[aboutfkntime]

One win can't make you undisputed in a sense; then lose the very first title defense. That is a farce. The Haney belt is kind of anecdotal because Teo only beat Loma but not any of the others and since he was never able to defend it is probably wrong to say he was undisputed at all.

a good common-sense post

nice one bro

Teo beat one guy... refused to rematch him, and then LOST

I would favor Davis AND Haney over Teo at this point... and I know why they refused to rematch Loma

lightweight is stacked full of killers... it is the most unclear division in boxing, because almost none of the top fighters have fought the other killers

nobody can insist that Teo (now, Kambosos) should be regarded as undisputed... and I don't think that Kambosos beats Davis or Haney









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