Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte purse bids has now been pushed back by a week

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  • Kzbox
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    #21
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    You brought percentage numbers that were incorrect . A.J wanted to make the fight thus giving him a guaranteed rematch because it was a short notice fight . Fury is not showing anything where he wants this fight and has declined this fight more then once when it was ordered in 2019 ,no comment on that I bet ?

    If you weren’t a fanboy you might actually make sense on here .
    i brought % numbers from the fight i was talking about if you actually read properly i said "when they fought" did they fight a second time i didn't know about. Read properly instead of making your own narrative and rolling with it. Whyte is the one declining offers and asking for 45% how is Fury ducking? if you really believe Whyte deserves 45% than you are more delusional than he is straight up. Look at them purse numbers up above and compare them to Furys last few fights it says it all. I'm no fan boy check my history i was just slagging Fury off 2 days ago for this circus act with francis which is a bs fight i just tell it how it is.

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      #22
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

      Because going back several decades, you have always been able to petition to have the split changed if you can prove your recent purses are astronomically larger than the opponent's recent purses.

      For example, when Fury was the mandatory, Klitschko successfully petitioned to have the split modified to 80/20.

      Joshua vs Usyk was also ordered at 80/20.

      I've never seen you complain about 80/20 in the past.
      The key difference is whyte has headlined Vs aj (did bigger numbers than wlad-fury) and whyte sold that fight
      Vs joseph parker
      Vs chisora x2
      Vs oscar rivas
      Vs povetkin x2
      All on ppv in the uk.
      THe numbers werent massive for the rivas and povetkin fights but that's partly down to covid and people spending less on boxing. Rivas wasnt a name so that one did less.
      whyte vs povetkin 2 only did 197k ppv buys
      Fury did 300k vs wilder 3.

      ​​​​​​In fact whyte vs chisora sold better than fury vs wilder 1.
      Their ppv figures are not worlds behind. Yes fury was fighting in the US so they were 5am fights...but it was against wilder ffs. When fury fought otto wallin maybe 2 ppl watched those fights. Fury couldnt even fight agit kabayel because they knew it wouldnt generate the numbers.

      The key thing is that fury has had espn paying him $20m a fight, but whyte gets paid by dazn too. Since whyte was fighting in the uk, he submitted his uk purse.

      Furthermore wlad was not the wbc champion. As i said the wbc rules say its 70-30 and may change to 50-50 if the challenger is a big commercial name. It says nothing about a split reducing to 80-20.

      this one is bizarre thougg. Eddie said it is 55-45 for an interim..but it doesnt say that anywhere in their rules. So what rules is eddie reading? Maybe wbc have another rulebook with more details? Maybe they promised whyte 45% when he was suing after the rivas fight?
      Maybe they will only stick to that agreement if whyte wins a legal case.

      Its funny that aj and whyte helped matchroom grow. Matchroom got the dazn contract and dazn's spending led to espn signing fury.
      ​the hype around HW boxing was largely built by eddie and his guys. Wilder had no traction until eddie got talking and whyte was a big part of that too.
      ​​​​​​

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        #23
        Originally posted by Inspired
        The key thing is that fury has had espn paying him $20m a fight, but whyte gets paid by dazn too. Since whyte was fighting in the uk, he submitted his uk purse.
        That's not how it works. You don't "submit a UK purse." You're supposed to pay your sanctioning fee based on your entire purse. Of course most fighters fudge the numbers, but those are the numbers you'll be judged on when the split is determined.


        Furthermore wlad was not the wbc champion. As i said the wbc rules say its 70-30 and may change to 50-50 if the challenger is a big commercial name. It says nothing about a split reducing to 80-20.
        Rule 2.6 allows the WBC to increase the champion's share to anything they see fit.


        this one is bizarre thougg. Eddie said it is 55-45 for an interim..but it doesnt say that anywhere in their rules.
        That's because Eddie is a liar. How have you not figured that out yet?

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          #24
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

          That's not how it works. You don't "submit a UK purse." You're supposed to pay your sanctioning fee based on your entire purse. Of course most fighters fudge the numbers, but those are the numbers you'll be judged on when the split is determined.




          Rule 2.6 allows the WBC to increase the champion's share to anything they see fit.




          That's because Eddie is a liar. How have you not figured that out yet?
          Still, whatever nunbers he submitted, they werent the nunbers frank said frank was referring to whyte's "last fight" and yet had made it clear earlier that this was the ibf pulev purse bid from 2018.

          Eddie is a smart liar though, he wouldnt just make something up on the fly like that...he isnt deontay wilder or fury or frank warren who lie through their teeth. A smart liar will tell the odd white lie when necessary..but here we have a legal case and arbitration..eddie wouldnt lie for this one. My argument is that there's a lot more behind this situation than we know.

          there is no rule 2.6. so much for lying.

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            #25
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

            That's not how it works. You don't "submit a UK purse." You're supposed to pay your sanctioning fee based on your entire purse. Of course most fighters fudge the numbers, but those are the numbers you'll be judged on when the split is determined.




            Rule 2.6 allows the WBC to increase the champion's share to anything they see fit.




            That's because Eddie is a liar. How have you not figured that out yet?
            That’s not true . Arbitration would take into consideration where the fight takes place it’s a legal issue outside boxing politics. The only problem is they never had a confirmed place where the fight was going to be just hearsay of where Fury / Warren wanted it so they may have a loophole .

            The WBC rule states if a fighter is both the interim and mandatory at the same time they cannot enforce a certain purse bid amount themselves that’s why arbitration is still ongoing . So that says otherwise ,but you left that out . The WBC cannot do whatever they like they can put a split out there but they can’t enforce it in this situation.

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              #26
              Originally posted by sunny31
              Prove it.......

              Wladimir Klitschko's next title defense will come against Tyson Fury as a legitimate mandatory -- not one of the many questionable ones that populate the sanctioning body rankings.


              "The purse split in the event of a bid would be 80-20 in Klitschko's favor."



              LAS VEGAS – Anthony Joshua still doesn’t want to give up his WBO heavyweight title. Joshua’s promoter doesn’t think the British superstar would even consider vacating one of his four championships unless negotiations for his mandated matchup with Oleksandr Usyk take a sudden turn for the worse. Thus far, talks between Eddie Hearn, whose company promotes Joshua and co-promoted Usyk’s last three fights, and Alex Krassyuk, Usyk’s other promotional representative, have advanced to the point Hearn is confident that they’ll come to an agreement soon.


              "According to the WBO’s rules, an 80-20 purse split would favor Joshua if his fight with Usyk went to a purse bid."



              Bernd Boente, manager of WBO/IBF/WBA/IBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (62-3, 52KOs), has confirmed that the International Boxing Federation has approved the request by Team Klitschko to modify the purse bid split to 80-20, in favor of the champion, with respect to the mandatory obligation to undefeated challenger Kubrat Pulev (20-0, 11KOs). The usual split is 75-25 in favor of the champion.


              "Wladimir thanks the IBF President Darryl Peoples and the [IBF's] board of directors for supporting him and changing the split to 80-20, and showing their respect."



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