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I remember seeing that answer on boxingscene's comment section after the last mail bag.......it's nice to see someone had the sense to send it to bread...... everything has been put in perspective, & we know about the WORDSMITH thingComment
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Hey Caxcan your post made it into Bread's Mailbag.
You even got him to admit he was wrong about the details and made a misstatement. Cong****.Comment
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Ugh, Canelo stans are the absolutely worst humans alive.
Them or Floyd stans.
They just take all the fun out of boxing.Comment
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This is a little late but apparently someone submitted a previous comment of mine correcting Bread on his false Andrade hyping narratives, and Bread in turn replied with more false narratives lol. And apparently now I have to set him straight yet again???
"But if you look close for the last 8+ years..."
Why would Bread want to do Andrade dirty like that by comparing their resumes for the past 8 years? lol Besides turning down opportunities, Andrade has barely been doing the minimum of being active-- since '14 and onward he's only had 3 years in which he fought more than once.
"Again, I just remembered him fighting those 3 after the Floyd Mayweather loss. I have said several times the Lara fight was such a great legacy move. Canelo did NOT have to take that fight! I’m not suggesting he ducked Andrade right there. But I keep hearing that Andrade can’t fight. And Andrade is not a worthy opponent. But what made Angulo and Kirkland more worthy than Andrade? I’m not an advocate for Demetrius Andrade. I just don’t get what makes Kirkland and Angulo more worthy opponents."
Canelo fought Angulo (a legit opponent) as a rebound coming of the Floyd loss. By then the fight people were anticipating was Canelo vs Lara (who Andrade was still avoiding years later)-- and that's the fight that got made next. Andrade, for his part, had single mandatory defense vs Rose then pulled out of his Charlo step up, refused a lucrative 3 fight Showtime deal, and went inactive. During that time Andrade's team requested a mandatory shot at the vacant WBO 160 belt vs Korobov which was granted, but he pulled out yet again just to remain inactive and get stripped. https://www.wboboxing.com/news/boxin...cant-160-belt/
So Canelo between ages 22-23 had a run vs Trout, Floyd, Angulo and Lara while Andrade was busy refusing career high money, pulling out of fights left and right, and being inactive. But Canelo gets scrutinized by Bread and calls Andrade avoided?
Afterward Canelo turned his sights on Cotto: Cotto wanted an interim fight and Canelo ended up suffering an injury during training and fought Kirkland as a tune up then went into the Cotto ppv. As for Andrade, he was still MIA throughout this time until late 2015.
"In 2016 it didn’t seem like Andrade was in a good place business wise. Someone from his team screwed up the Charlo title defense and he was still paying for business blunders. But that has nothing to do with Canelo. Don’t tell me Canelo was punishing Andrade for not fighting Charlo."
More false narratives: No Andrade wasn't being blackballed, he would turn down yet another big opportunity in 2016: He was in line to face Jermell a second time this time as mandatory to Jermell's WBC belt. But what did Andrade do? In yet another WTF career move, he said he didn't want to face Jermell as a "challenger" and preferred going after Culcay's WBA minor belt for peanuts.https://www.boxingscene.com/demetriu...culcay--106350
In the irony of all ironies, Andrade also dismissed WBA super champ Lara saying he found him boring-- when not only was Lara far more proven than he's ever been, he's also been in entertaining fights against actual elite guys which Andrade wouldn't know about. His preferred minor belt Culcay fight would end up being his last at 154.
"The only reason why Canelo vs Jacobs was a unification was Canelo didn’t pay sanctioning fees and the belt became vacant and he doubled back and picked it up. So the person was being a WORDSMITH to prove a point when knows darn well what really happened. I just stated it in specific detail so he can’t be a WORDSMITH anymore to justify why Andrade didn’t get a shot when he was available for a huge unification/undisputed fight. The undisputed title became a thing at 168lb but Canelo was one fight away from it at 160...."
Wordsmith? It's called fact checking. And Bread somehow managed to get the situation wrong a second time. GGG was ordered to face Derevyanchenko as his mandatory but he was in talks for the rematch with Canelo and ended up being stripped. Jacobs in turn claimed the belt with a win over Derevyanchenko. So yes, Canelo had to face Jacobs in order to unify and he was the next proven champ in line. And again, undisputed didn't end up being on the table: Canelo would end up losing the same IBF belt shortly after claiming it vs Jacobs: The IBF somehow installed Derev as mandatory again despite his recent loss and they were being sticklers insisting on a short window to come to terms with Derevyanchenko who ended up dragging his feet rejecting career high money until the window ran out.
To summarize: No Andrade isn't some kind of victim in the sport who never had his chance, he chose to spend the bulk of his career coasting and playing it safe waiting for the cash out that hasn't come. He's showing more motivation lately now that he's running out of time to cash in, but that's not saying much when Andrade's idea of having a next level year is fighting two gatekeepers lol
You know you've lost the plot with your narrative spinning when the hero of your story is the guy who turned down more step up fights than anyone while the guy you scrutinize is the one who stepped up more than anyone.
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