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  • Shadoww702
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    #11
    Originally posted by tritium_arma

    Your point was a triangle theory where because Canelo beat Smith who beat Williams, and Williams hurt Andrade that Canelo would wreck Andrade. Except you didn't watch Williams vs Smith and Williams was robbed. So how Canelo would do against Andrade is anyone's guess.
    No it's not a guess. I would bet the $$$$$ on Canelo. Don't tell me you would be the other guy??? Let me guess you take Andrade by EASY KO???

    Go watch Andrade/Williams round 11.

    1 dude STRUGGLES with C level fighters while the other guy take them OUT! There's levels to boxing and you clearly don't understand this.

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    • Smash
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      #12
      i cant wait to read breads mailbag, i really hope jesper from denmark asks another question, he asks the best questions in boxing, he really knows his stuff, he got up breads nose last time by questioning his eye test, bread really went to town and kindof schooled jesper about boxing, i hope jasper is ok after that dressing down he got
      Last edited by Smash; 01-09-2022, 06:59 AM.

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      • Shadoww702
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        #13
        Raise your hand if you think Canelo would struggle with Liam Williams, Jack Culcay, or Vanes who GGG DESTROYED???

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        • tritium_arma
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          #14
          Originally posted by Shadoww702

          No it's not a guess. I would bet the $$$$$ on Canelo. Don't tell me you would be the other guy??? Let me guess you take Andrade by EASY KO???

          Go watch Andrade/Williams round 11.

          1 dude STRUGGLES with C level fighters while the other guy take them OUT! There's levels to boxing and you clearly don't understand this.
          No I would bet on Canelo too. I just want to see him vs a slick athletic black boxer as it's been a while since he's boxed one. And struggle is an exaggeration. He won 10 of the 12 rounds and knocked down Williams. He was hurt a few times during the fight but that can happen to anyone.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #15
            Originally posted by tritium_arma

            Your point was a triangle theory where because Canelo beat Smith who beat Williams, and Williams hurt Andrade that Canelo would wreck Andrade. Except you didn't watch Williams vs Smith and Williams was robbed. So how Canelo would do against Andrade is anyone's guess.
            This is easy to gamble on.

            Canelo was drained at 154 against Smith, and Canelo broke his hand early in the fight. Yet Canelo was still able to handle Smith without problems. If Liam Smith had fought Canelo at 160 he’s probably be starched earlier or worse, serious long term injuries. It’s no joke. Second, Williams was able to tag Andrade in that fight with basic come forward brawling that, if you’ve sparred yourself, one strategy in boxing is to just pressure making your opponent uncomfortable and breathing out of the rhythm. This causes unsual Fatigue, unexpected. That’s what happened to Andrade.

            Furthermore, Williams, Smith, Andrade are NOWHERE near Canelo’s power. Andrade would get countered for fun or worse, Andrade would upset his fans in just running the whole fight with LDBC kids saying “Andrade sold himself” and they are on to the next “slick” wonder and contextualize Trout and Lara to death. lol.

            Andrade fights funny tbh. His awkward evasions at close range he’ll probably be dropped 80 times with Canelo simply punching him when he flees the pocket and trips over the canvas like a bozo.

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              #16
              Like I said there are levels to boxing...

              Canelo vs. Saunders - Canelo favored -700
              Andrade vs Saunders 30 mins from Andrade's own house - Saunders favored -185 almost 2:1..

              Canelo vs. Andrade would have Canelo at least -800

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                #17
                Originally posted by tritium_arma

                No I would bet on Canelo too. I just want to see him vs a slick athletic black boxer as it's been a while since he's boxed one. And struggle is an exaggeration. He won 10 of the 12 rounds and knocked down Williams. He was hurt a few times during the fight but that can happen to anyone.
                Saunders and plant aren't slick?? Plant fights like a slick black fighter for a white guy.

                Honestly I'm done watching Canelo vs "Slick" boxers. I want to see him vs. some ****ers like Charlo, Bieterbiev, Benavidez, Joe Smith.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                  This is easy to gamble on.

                  Canelo was drained at 154 against Smith, and Canelo broke his hand early in the fight. Yet Canelo was still able to handle Smith without problems. If Liam Smith had fought Canelo at 160 he’s probably be starched earlier or worse, serious long term injuries. It’s no joke. Second, Williams was able to tag Andrade in that fight with basic come forward brawling that, if you’ve sparred yourself, one strategy in boxing is to just pressure making your opponent uncomfortable and breathing out of the rhythm. This causes unsual Fatigue, unexpected. That’s what happened to Andrade.

                  Furthermore, Williams, Smith, Andrade are NOWHERE near Canelo’s power. Andrade would get countered for fun or worse, Andrade would upset his fans in just running the whole fight with LDBC kids saying “Andrade sold himself” and they are on to the next “slick” wonder and contextualize Trout and Lara to death. lol.

                  Andrade fights funny tbh. His awkward evasions at close range he’ll probably be dropped 80 times with Canelo simply punching him when he flees the pocket and trips over the canvas like a bozo.
                  It would end exactly like Khan. He would get caught trying too hard to avoid Canelo. Just like you said Canelo would put him on the robes when he tries and flees the pocket and Hurt chin chin badly.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702

                    Saunders and plant aren't slick?? Plant fights like a slick black fighter for a white guy.

                    Honestly I'm done watching Canelo vs "Slick" boxers. I want to see him vs. some ****ers like Charlo, Bieterbiev, Benavidez, Joe Smith.
                    That would make for some entertaining bouts for sure. Fight Of The Year type of fights.

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                    • Walexhris
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MPDKSAB
                      The same ppl that say Andrade avoided Lara are the same ppl who say Andrade never beat a champion. I spy a pattern. Those same ppl also never bring up him beating ppl who either beat a champ or beating ppl that beat ppl that beat champs. It's clear detraction.

                      Crazy thing is those champs that beat other champs should be raising their hand high & proud, to fight Andrade since we know by that logic that it would mean he's the easiest to beat. But we all know that's not really what dude was implying.

                      He "never beat another champ" & we all know boxers like to beat easy champs to pad their resume. But not when it comes to Andrade.. hmmm...

                      Everybody in boxing knows Canelo ran from Andrade. & I disagree with Bread because all it does it get louder by the day. & more importantly than that is, Canelo might could've flew under the radar if he was the only one but he wasn't, he was just ONE OF MANY. In regards to that, history will be harsher to him ducking Andrade & kinder to Andrade's lack of better opposition due to being ducked. The mythical thing where a fighter has to fight someone else to "deserve" the cash cow, yea lol.. Andrade couldn't even do that. From Canelo, BJS, Munguia, Charlo, to GGG & even lesser known dudes lol. You must be a damn fool if you can't see what this is.
                      Well that's because, TSPDKSAB.......lol

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