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  • #31
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

    So what? Wilder is a bum. And Wilder is not huge nor skilled.
    Neither guy will put on a boxing clinic.

    Joe can be touched
    Conn did it pretty well

    If Wilder weren't so tall and long, no problem.
    DW - 6' 7'' 83'' reach 240 lbs (vs Fury)
    JL - 6' 2'', 76'' reach 200 lbs (vs Conn 1)
    Too much of an ask, mho.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
      Wilder was gifted a belt against bumain stiverne in which he went life and death the first first

      The second fight bumain was kod but he had health issues leading up to the fight

      Apart from that wilder was schooled multiple times by c class opposition

      I'll give him credit for the Luis ortiz wins in which he was schooled by a 50 year old man twice until he eventually gassed and made the mistake of getting caught (age is a cruel thing)

      The only prime top ten guys wilder fought he was dominated by which was fury once he settled into training in the second and third fight and then Joseph Parker a c level ex (gifted) World champion whom used the same game plan all night long and he dominated wilder

      Joe louIs was faster than parker,he hits 10 times harder regardless of weight and he has many many game plans

      I see Joe literally waiting on wilder to over reach and having the speed and timing to capitalise and counter wilder over and over again until the ko

      Joe wouldn't be smothering his work like fury and Parker he would be hitting wilder with clean ferociously timed power punch counters and leads


      Joe Louis ko 6th round domination


      For all you dummies out there just look at how usyk commands respect from big guys and look at wilders weight also

      Weight isn't everything when you have perfect timing coupled with power and the ability to land on a soft spot at will
      looks like novices compared to that 4th guy deon fought see how you shouldn't lie crazy idiot
       

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
        Wilder was gifted a belt against bumain stiverne in which he went life and death the first first

        The second fight bumain was kod but he had health issues leading up to the fight

        Apart from that wilder was schooled multiple times by c class opposition

        I'll give him credit for the Luis ortiz wins in which he was schooled by a 50 year old man twice until he eventually gassed and made the mistake of getting caught (age is a cruel thing)

        The only prime top ten guys wilder fought he was dominated by which was fury once he settled into training in the second and third fight and then Joseph Parker a c level ex (gifted) World champion whom used the same game plan all night long and he dominated wilder

        Joe louIs was faster than parker,he hits 10 times harder regardless of weight and he has many many game plans

        I see Joe literally waiting on wilder to over reach and having the speed and timing to capitalise and counter wilder over and over again until the ko

        Joe wouldn't be smothering his work like fury and Parker he would be hitting wilder with clean ferociously timed power punch counters and leads


        Joe Louis ko 6th round domination


        For all you dummies out there just look at how usyk commands respect from big guys and look at wilders weight also

        Weight isn't everything when you have perfect timing coupled with power and the ability to land on a soft spot at will
        That's deon 4th pro match,does Joe or primo use as many angles/defense/as fluid/punch tech/reflexes or fight as smart,the answer is no they look novice liike so what are you talking about you're a wacko

        deon even as early as this would destroy the whole Joe era​

        Crazy idiot​
         

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ascended



          That's deon 4th pro match,does Joe or primo use as many angles/defense/as fluid/punch tech/reflexes or fight as smart,the answer is no they look novice liike so what are you talking about deon wouldn't put a clinic on? Joe was a novice compared to these guys


          Joe walks through these guys how when he never fought anybody as advanced as these guys you crazy idiot
          Name calling doesn't strengthen your opinions
          It makes you look desperate for acceptance.

          That bum Wilder was ''fighting'', even the commentators were holding back laughing.
          Wilder ''skill'' diminishes year by year.
          His last dozen or so fights, you can see him falling all over the place after he misses one of his telegraphed right hands.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ascended

            So Joe vs this guy who was a novice to like him is proof of Joe doing great vs guy in my video and everyone else? You're an idiot this looks horrible

            Show video proof of him facing guys as advanced in the video I posted oh that's right you can't
            Simmer down
            Until they actually fight, there is no need to spaz out.

            You would love the Fantasy Fight section (where this belongs)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ascended

              So Joe vs this guy who was a novice to like him is proof of Joe doing great vs guy in my video and everyone else? You're an idiot this looks horrible

              Show video proof of him facing guys as advanced in the video I posted oh that's right you can't​
              ......
              One more in the bucket

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                Simmer down
                Until they actually fight, there is no need to spaz out.

                You would love the Fantasy Fight section (where this belongs)
                this is novices you crazy idiot no one made pro fighting like these guys in deon era you slow idiot so no joe wouldnt beat anyone in this era
                 

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                  ......
                  One more in the bucket
                  That's deon 4th pro match, does Joe or Primo use as many angles/defense/as fluid/punch tech/reflexes or fight as smart, the answer is no they look novice-like

                  This guy was way more advanced than Primo and everyone else in the novice louis era​

                  I can post more and show the 10 pro matches deon had were with people way more advanced than the novice louis era you can't do the same wacko follower who says lies
                   
                  Last edited by Ascended; 02-25-2024, 06:10 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                    ......
                    One more in the bucket
                    How about this guy another one of Joe's best wins is this guy proof that Joe would do great now? He looks like a novice to I can keep posting vids and they all will look novice cause that’s what they were compared you have no proof whatsoever of Joe being able to do great when he never even faced anyone as advanced as even no-names deon fought in pro or amateur I can go to 70s and those guys were way more advanced to then the Louis era you exposed yourself idiot
                     
                    Last edited by Ascended; 02-25-2024, 06:20 AM.

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                    • #40
                      If it’s as is, meaning no change in size, training, nutrition, styles, and we’re talking about past vs the present in some sci-fi time travel fight then Wilder should win.

                      Then again, Wilder should’ve also destroyed Parker. And Joshua was supposed to beat Usyk.

                      I know Parker and Usyk are today’s short Heavyweights but Parker was bigger than Wilder at 245lbs, and Usyk has been 221lbs for 3 fights in a row. So both these guys are actually pretty good sized heavyweights.

                      Then people talk about “what about Ruiz vs Joshua”…yeah. Ruiz weighed in at 263lbs and 283lbs in the Joshua fights.

                      So even the examples some people use of some of today’s “smaller” boxers are actually fighters who are the bigger man in the ring vs taller men, or they are good sized heavyweights.

                      In other words, being 6’2”-6’3” like some of today’s successful “short” boxers doesn’t help when you weigh 200lbs on fight night. That’s just undersized.

                      But of course the great Primo Carnera is going to get used as proof that today’s boxers would lose to past boxers. As if tall/big boxers still move like Carnera and aren’t way more athletic than that. If you’re talking about Nikolai Valuev, i’d understand. But most of today’s big heavyweights are 100x more athletic than past big men. Back then being big was a detriment because that size came with a lot of cons. Now you have big Heavyweight who move like Middleweights.

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