Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Injured, Declines Invitation For IBF Eliminator; Hrgovic Awaits Next Ordered Opponent

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How can a fighter be undisputed if he gives up one of his belts?

These guys are crazy ,they don’t even know how,much the fight is worth or who is giving what offers but it’s a moneyless fight for everyone ? It like the posters are getting the offers themselves,if that’s the case let me in on the amount you guys were offered ?

[Zelda]

Do you think Usyk/Joshua would give a damn about IBF if it is preventing them from a mega-fight with Fury? It would be the first belt anyone would happily give up. IBF is not a major or highly respected belt even if it is a recognized belt. "Undisputed" is a made-up word itself, not one with some legal binding. Sure it would be good to hold every belt, but I think they would give it up if is preventing a mega-fight or give it up after the unification instead of getting stuck with an IBF mandatory over other lucrative fights.

No wonder they are struggling to find someone to fight a final eliminator and also had Charles Martin and Hrgovic ranked above Joshua, Wilder, Whyte, Ruiz, etc.

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PBC got nothing for him. Hearn is the answer. Team Ortiz will take any offer coming from Eddie.

Funny. Oritz will be fed to Ruiz, just like PBC did to him with Wilder. If PBC wouldn't let him take 7 mil vs. AJ, there is no way they are releasing him to fight a no-name when they can use him getting "Knocked Out Again" to get up Wilder vs Ruiz in Vegas or LA if Wilder comes back. Notice Helenius isn't moving. 100% sure they will use him with his 2 wins over Kownacki as food for a Wilder comeback.

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Do you think Usyk/Joshua would give a damn about IBF if it is preventing them from a mega-fight with Fury? It would be the first belt anyone would happily give up. IBF is not a major or highly respected belt even if it is a recognized belt. "Undisputed" is a made-up word itself, not one with some legal binding. Sure it would be good to hold every belt, but I think they would give it up if is preventing a mega-fight or give it up after the unification instead of getting stuck with an IBF mandatory over other lucrative fights.

No wonder they are struggling to find someone to fight a final eliminator and also had Charles Martin and Hrgovic ranked above Joshua, Wilder, Whyte, Ruiz, etc.

I would think the IBF has more clout than the WBO.
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Do you think Usyk/Joshua would give a damn about IBF if it is preventing them from a mega-fight with Fury? It would be the first belt anyone would happily give up. IBF is not a major or highly respected belt even if it is a recognized belt. "Undisputed" is a made-up word itself, not one with some legal binding. Sure it would be good to hold every belt, but I think they would give it up if is preventing a mega-fight or give it up after the unification instead of getting stuck with an IBF mandatory over other lucrative fights.

No wonder they are struggling to find someone to fight a final eliminator and also had Charles Martin and Hrgovic ranked above Joshua, Wilder, Whyte, Ruiz, etc.

Wilder just got knocked out , and was a WBC guy . Whyte can’t be ranked because he’s the interim WBC champion. Hrgovic got ranked because guys were declining elimination bouts before he was offered them . Joshua is also going to fight Usyk so it doesn’t actually matter where he’s ranked in the IBF ,guy that are involved in elimination bouts are ranked over him at least until they update the rankings or AJ wins his belts back .

The IBF isnt actually struggling because it’s team Hrgovic seeking the fight sooner then later ,no one so far is overly confident enough to win against Hrgovic. It’s not a big mystery a win over him secures a title fight sometime next year if anything it puts their own value higher in winning the number one ranking so talks of not enough money is just ducking .

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Wilder just got knocked out , and was a WBC guy . Whyte can’t be ranked because he’s the interim WBC champion. Hrgovic got ranked because guys were declining elimination bouts before he was offered them . Joshua is also going to fight Usyk so it doesn’t actually matter where he’s ranked in the IBF ,guy that are involved in elimination bouts are ranked over him at least until they update the rankings or AJ wins his belts back .

The IBF isnt actually struggling because it’s team Hrgovic seeking the fight sooner then later ,no one so far is overly confident enough to win against Hrgovic. It’s not a big mystery a win over him secures a title fight sometime next year if anything it puts their own value higher in winning the number one ranking so talks of not enough money is just ducking .

Right, just another way of saying what I was saying.

This is a WBC guy, that is a WBO guy, this is busy with a fight, that has a rematch....So, in reality, IBF is left with a rating of leftovers. Why is nobody of name and fame busy with something to do with IBF? Hrgovic is a rated guy because others were declining elimination bouts. Even the likes of Dubois and Joyce are also going with other sanctioning bodies.

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Right, just another way of saying what I was saying.

This is a WBC guy, that is a WBO guy, this is busy with a fight, that has a rematch....So, in reality, IBF is left with a rating of leftovers. Why is nobody of name and fame busy with something to do with IBF? Hrgovic is a rated guy because others were declining elimination bouts. Even the likes of Dubois and Joyce are also going with other sanctioning bodies.

Joyce was offered the Hrgovic fight but then after agreeing saw an easier path to a mandatory spot elsewhere in WBO fighting DDD and Takam . DDD was offered the Bogdan Dinu fight for the WBA spot awhile back after his loss . Parker and Ruiz are also ranked ,one has already declined it’s not a ratings of left overs and also some undefeated prospects in it .

[techliam]

Mentally injured, I'm guessing. A fighter of Martin's calibre (barely even a contender) humiliated him for 5 rounds. I think age has caught up with him