A question about the WBC franchise belt

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  • DaNeutral.
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    #11
    This Lightweight mess is just ridiculous. I feel that Teo deserved to be seen as Undisputed as he beat Loma and now Kambosos has beat Teo.

    But Loma and Bob gave up that WBC belt and take Franchise rather than face Devin Haney, Haney was ready and wanted to fight Loma for that belt, he didn't ask to be given it he asked to fight for it.

    I've always valued the WBC belt highly and we all agreed as one when Franchise was 1st mentioned that it was a joke belt whose only purpose was to rake in more sanctioning fees, yet here we are.

    Best case scenario is for Morris to fkk that whole franchise crap out the sport and forget he ever did it. 2nd best case scenario is to immediately match up Kambosos v Haney and just get this chit straightened out. Worst case scenario is just to leave hanging as a joke and a mess just as it is right now..

    Where we are right now is the full WBC title at 135 is a lesser belt than the exact same full WBC title in every other division. Even though Sillyman says it is the same it is a requirement for undisputed at every other weight but franchise is the belt that has fulfilled it at 135.

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    • champion4ever
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      #12
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Can somebody plz provide me with a link to the WBC website page that describes the meaning and merit of the Franchise belt.

      I've looked and looked all over the Internet and there is nothing about it being won in the ring, exchanged between winner and loser. Every article, every explanation just states that the WBC bestow this thing as an honoury designation.

      I can't find anything that states it as an actual WORLD TITLE.
      It doesn't even exist. Boxing is so corrupt man which is why the 2028 Summer Olympics Games; Which are slated for the U.S. To take place in Los Angeles are going to scrap the entire program from its list of events due to corruption of the sport.

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      • Smash
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        #13
        Originally posted by M312

        'It causes confusion. Of course, it causes confusion' - Mauricio Sualiman
        money > confusion

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        • sicko
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          #14
          I thought over a year ago Suleiman said the Franchise Title cannot be won meaning that if Teofimo beat Loma (which he did) the "Franchise Title" would not be passed along like a real title. So yeah it is confusing AF! I'm sure The WBC have a number you can call, these are questions only they can answer not FANS!

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          • Stuart Chandler
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            #15
            Originally posted by Marchegiano

            I can't because they do that ****** PDF ****. So it's on you if your browser downloads it or just opens it internally is on your end. What I can do is copy/paste and tell you where from.

            File name:
            Rules&Regulations051419AcceptedFINAL.pdf

            Link:
            https://wbcboxing.com/en/descarga/wb...175c1641232751

            Documentos – World Boxing Council (wbcboxing.com)

            Info:
            6 Franchise Boxer. The Franchise Boxer is a special designation and status which the WBC may bestow to a current WBC World Champion, who is also an elite boxer, and who has achieved and maintains the highest of statures in the sport. In its discretion, the WBC may, upon a 2/3rd vote of the Board of Governors, designate in each weight category one WBC Franchise Boxer. A Franchise Boxer shall enjoy special status with respect to his or her mandatory obligations, holding multiple titles and competing for titles of other organizations, as the WBC Board of Governors, in its sole discretion, rules on a case-by-case basis.


            My commentary:
            Franchise is mentioned 4 times in the PDF. That's those 4 in that paragraph.


            Let's do emeritus just to show how useless that entire paragraph was and how it doesn't actually say the Franchise is anything special because everything WBC that isn't normal or unter is just as special 2/3 vote and all that wank.


            Info:
            Champion Emeritus. In its discretion, the WBC may, upon a 2/3rd vote of the Board of
            Governors, designate in each weight category one or more WBC Champions Emeritus. The
            WBC may bestow the recognition of WBC Champion Emeritus upon a present or past
            WBC World Champion of extraordinary prestige, reputation, stature, or everlasting legacy
            in the sport. A WBC Champion Emeritus shall also be an Ambassador of Good Will on
            behalf of the WBC.
            A WBC Champion Emeritus shall be free to display and exhibit his special belt in any
            social ceremony or sports event. The WBC Champion Emeritus recognition is the highest
            of honors the WBC grants to any boxer, and cannot be lost or transferred to anyone inside
            or outside the ring. Champion Emeritus recognition may be withdrawn only by the WBC
            its sole discretion in the event that the WBC determines, in its sole discretion, that a holder
            of that recognition has brought dishonor upon the WBC or the sport of boxing. A
            Champion Emeritus may request an immediate challenge to a WBC World Champion in his
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            division without first boxing in an elimination contest, and if a mandatory challenger has
            previously been designated, the WBC may pursuant to Rule 3.8 order that the Champion
            Emeritus compete first for the title as an immediate mandatory challenger, but in any event,
            only upon the prior written approval of such status by the affirmative vote of the WBC
            Board of Governors, which may approve or deny such request in its sole discretion.


            Me again:
            Which is higher?

            Franchise- has achieved and maintains the highest of statures in the sport.

            Emeritus- is the highest of honors the WBC grants to any boxer

            I mean, actually sounds like the oldman belt is higher, actually, but we all know Vitali isn't actually a current reigning champion is he?


            Let us do another


            Info:
            Diamond Championship. The Diamond Championship is a special award and distinction which the WBC presents to the winner of an extraordinary fight between elite boxers. In its discretion, on such terms and conditions as it may impose, the WBC may recognize a WBC Diamond Champion of the World in each weight division. The WBC may award the Diamond Championship to recognize the most extraordinary and elite boxer in a division or as a special distinction, or may sanction a bout for the title as an extraordinary bout, under such terms and conditions as the WBC may designate in its sole discretion. Under extremely special circumstances, the WBC may in its discretion designate the Diamond Champion as supreme champion in the division. The Diamond Champion shall be subject only to such obligations, if any, in a case-by-case basis, to defend the title as the WBC may impose or permit in its sole discretion. The Diamond Champion may be permitted to voluntarily defend the Diamond Championship; however, a challenger may not win the Diamond Championship unless a special sanction has been granted by the WBC in its sole discretion. The WBC may also order the Diamond Champion to comply with all defense and other obligations applicable to WBC World Champions hereunder

            Me:
            Franchise- has achieved and maintains the highest of statures in the sport.

            Emeritus- is the highest of honors the WBC grants to any boxer

            Diamond- The WBC may award the Diamond Championship to recognize the most extraordinary and elite boxer in a division

            So you got yer "acheived the highest", "honored the highest" and, "most elite boxer in the division"

            Which is tops? I dunno, what day is it? Doesn't ****ing matter does it? Because tomorrow Sully will tell us something new that makes **** all sense and pretends like the WBC is a boxing dictator.

            Is Rivas the lineal undisputed BW champion? Or a champion in a division that is itself in dispute? But the WBC says doe.
            I was expecting to see fries and a large chocolate shake somewhere ,how about them Burger King hats remember them ? I don’t see the point of franchise if the fighters aren’t compensated with the perks of beverages etc….

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