You may laugh but I think Ortiz beats this version of AJ

[Earl-Hickey]

Joshua is just so incredibly timid now, he fights like a frightened, cautious man, with little pit pat shots.

This version of Ortiz is poor, but Joshua wouldn't throw with bad enough intentions to take advantage.

I think eventually Ortiz will counter one of Joshuas uncommitted shots and get him rocking and rolling, and once he does, no way does Joshua survive the aggresion and violence Ortiz showed in that finish tonight

I think we would see AJ on a knee, smiling that dumb grin he does when hurt and the ref would count 10 and Joshua stand up at 10 and a half and complain.

[Citizen Koba]

You are absolutely correct. I am indeed laughing.

Guess old Luis is still kinda dangerous but he was KDd with a Charles Martin jab ffs and his legs are completely gone. I really ain't any particualr fan of Joshua's but all he'd need to do is keep the range a la Ruiz 2 until the old man gets tired and finish him.

Course it's boxing and anything can happen but I'd make Joshua an overwhelming favourite in this one.

You gonna join in the Pick Em this year Earl? You'd be a welcome addition. Nice bit of banter and you get to put your boxing knowledge to the test, what you reckon?

[M312]

Dude was getting knocked down by jabs by a guy AJ demolished for fun when he was a kid. Plus Ortiz has serious heart/health problems.

Haters gotta hate I guess.

[Earl-Hickey]

You are absolutely correct. I am indeed laughing.

Guess old Luis is still kinda dangerous but he was KDd with a Charles Martin jab ffs and his legs are completely gone. I really ain't any particualr fan of Joshua's but all he'd need to do is keep the range a la Ruiz 2 until the old man gets tired and finish him.

Course it's boxing and anything can happen but I'd make Joshua an overwhelming favourite in this one.

You gonna join in the Pick Em this year Earl? You'd be a welcome additon. Nice bit of banter and you get to put your boxing knowledge to the test, what you reckon?

I'm not really hardcore enough these days to join a league, honestly I probably only watch like 20 fights a year, I have become a casual in my old age

[JakeTheBoxer]

My friend, Ortiz will never be allowed to fight anybody good outside PBC. make my words.

Ortiz will continue his tradition fighting bums or the other PBC heavyweights. They have Ruiz, Kownacki, Arreola for him still.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I would like Ortiz to just get some big fights for himself. Maybe they can match him vs Chisora.

Ortiz no matter what people say, was a good fighter at his peak. He is way out of his peak now, and was still able to overcome two downs to blast out Martin.

Ortiz vs Chisora, Ortiz vs Ruiz Junior etc all intriguing fights.

Joshua is a regressed fighter, but his regression is due to his approach to the sport 'And training philosophies'.

Physically Joshua could manipulate his body, and turn up for his next fight close to 250 pounds solid 'He has all the knowledge and past experience of competing at such a weight' nobody else in division has that strategic option.

Nobody knows what type of Joshua will appear in the near future, the traumatized Joshua? The obsessive super light technical Joshua? Or the innate Joshua, the skinny body builder as Dillian Whyte would say 'This is the best version of Joshua'.

[QueensburyRules]

Joshua is just so incredibly timid now, he fights like a frightened, cautious man, with little pit pat shots.

This version of Ortiz is poor, but Joshua wouldn't throw with bad enough intentions to take advantage.

I think eventually Ortiz will counter one of Joshuas uncommitted shots and get him rocking and rolling, and once he does, no way does Joshua survive the aggresion and violence Ortiz showed in that finish tonight

I think we would see AJ on a knee, smiling that dumb grin he does when hurt and the ref would count 10 and Joshua stand up at 10 and a half and complain.

- - I agree about U being not only funny, but lobotomy quality stooooopid as most modern comics are...

[Stuntman Mike]

Oritz doesn't have the legs

At one point I'd have favoured ortiz over Joshua but at this point his legs don't look the best

He would fall short with his own punches on joshua as of now his legs just aren't in sync with his brain

i don't think his chin has gone as people seem to think because of the jab kd...that was down to his legs being so stiff and having weak knees...if you look at the replay regardless of that jab landing ortizes foot placement ensured he was going to end up on his ass if a punch landed or not ...he lunged in and his right leg was so stiff in an awkward position there is no way he would have maintained his balance