Comments Thread For: Arum Pours Cold Water Over Beterbiev-Bivol: That Fight Has No Pizzazz; Bivol Is Sort Of Boring

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  • BaguMka
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    #81
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic

    Then all these top Eastern European boxers should stop lying to fans by marketing themselves as chasing "all the belts" in their division. Instead they need to be honest and say, "I am only going to fight for all the belts if there is no other Eastern European titlist in my division, because there is not enough money for two Eastern Europeans titlists to fight each other."

    And we also need to stop putting any importance on undisputed since it is clearly then a function of opportunity related to economics and demographics, not boxing ability.
    Are you that ****** to comprehend that this isn't Beterbiev or Bivols fault that Bob don't wanna make this fight hence their opinion and willingness don't matter

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #82
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.

      So we agree he is just a sleazy lying cvnt and there isn't actually any issues to make this fight other than Bob doesn't wana cuz it doesn't suit him and his issue with testing his fighters against DAZN fighters.
      Would’ve been great to see you post this first instead of the first post you made in this thread including Bob’s competition, someone who has nothing to do with this fight not being made.

      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-01-2022, 09:56 AM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        Would’ve been great to see you post this first instead of the first post you made in this thread including Bob’s competition, someone who has nothing to do with this fight not being made.
        Al Haymon whispers in to Deontays ear "pfft, 100 million? That is Floyd training camp money"

        Fk Al Haymon he is every bit as toxic as Bob Arum

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        • paulf
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          #84
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic

          And we also need to stop putting any importance on undisputed since it is clearly then a function of opportunity related to economics and demographics, not boxing ability.
          All fights that are made in boxing are primarily a function of economics.

          This is prize-fighting, not sport for the sake of sport. The purpose of professional boxing is entertaining viewers for money.

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          • Boxing Logic
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            #85
            Originally posted by paulf

            All fights that are made in boxing are primarily a function of economics.

            This is prize-fighting, not sport for the sake of sport. The purpose of professional boxing is entertaining viewers for money.
            Exactly so GGG and Beterbiev and Loma should stop saying "all the belts!" and start saying "all the money." Don't mislead your fans, that's all Im saying.

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              #86
              Originally posted by BaguMka

              Are you that ****** to comprehend that this isn't Beterbiev or Bivols fault that Bob don't wanna make this fight hence their opinion and willingness don't matter
              Bob Arum works for Beterbiev, not vice versa. If Bob doesn't do what Beterbiev wants, Beterbiev can leave like Crawford.

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                #87
                The fans don't think this would be a boring fight.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  The fans don't think this would be a boring fight.
                  Bop stays ducking for his guys

                  Bivol is to Beter what Floyd is to manny

                  Fighter who boxes the bop rank guy’s ears off

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic

                    Bob Arum works for Beterbiev, not vice versa. If Bob doesn't do what Beterbiev wants, Beterbiev can leave like Crawford.
                    More or less. If Beterbiev wants it he can make Bob make the Bivol fight. It’s whether or not he likes the money and I think he likes the plan of his advisors. If Canelo does choose Joe first, Beterbiev-Bivol should happen or they should fight some legit comp like Zurdo/Buatsi/Smith. Lots of great fights to make at LHW, no one should be left out to dry.

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                    • paulf
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic

                      Exactly so GGG and Beterbiev and Loma should stop saying "all the belts!" and start saying "all the money." Don't mislead your fans, that's all Im saying.
                      All fighters are all saying "all the money" at all times - this is their job. They don't need to say it, it's implied and assumed the fans can grasp that.

                      For the obscure fighter, a belt is a path to getting some money. For the superstars, a belt is fun trinket to hang on the wall as they rake in the cash.

                      GGG is extremely popular and would be the biggest fight to make for the biggest selling star in the sport (Canelo). GGG and Beterbiev should never be mention in the same breath when it comes to crossover success.

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