Comments Thread For: Froch: Joshua Has All of The Physical Attributes Needed To Win Usyk Rematch

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  • trippleupper
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    #21
    Boxing: 20% physical?

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    • Bob
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      #22
      Aj has the phisical attributes of a cross trainer, not that of a boxer.
      Hearn managed Aj perfectly against big names that were shot 38-41 year old men 10 years past they're phisical primes (4of7) the last 2 he boxed of his own generation both beat him & Parker who wasn't allowed to hit back. Those stats don't lie.

      Froch comparing a 2 year's retired 41 year old Klitschko who Fury had already proven was shot because Klitschko couldn't even hit him to Usyk is rediculous. Aj didn't beat Klitschko, old father time did.
      AJ's size is a disadvantage, he's still wooden & slow when he's not fighting old men.

      What we should be talking about is Usyk, he has far superior boxing iq, speed, footwork, head movement & timing easily nullify Ajs lead hand defence & using it against him. He has decades of experience fighting orthadox fighter's bigger & smaller than him & unlike Aj he has dog in him, heart, determination & unlike the Rematchroom heavyweights it's not all about the money.

      Aj be in Dubai boutique training Bellews counter to the body left hook game plan.
      Meanwhile Usyks back in the matrix, & omg matrix 4 was so bad

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #23
        Originally posted by 15round
        lol. If Joshua had what it takes he would have blown Ruiz out in the rematch. Ruiz was fatter than the fattest in the rematch. If Joshua was really good he would have taken Ruiz out in the first fight or is Ruiz that good? Ruiz knew exactly what to do in the first fight to finish it. Why didn't Joshua?

        If Joshua was really good he would have adapted to the style Usyk used and turned it on. He did do that in the middle rounds and Usyk held his own. What most of you don't get is that fighters are individuals with limits. Joshua lacks stamina and Ruiz took most of his heart. Usyk has a piece too. When a fighter is tired they only have their heart. Joshua quit in the Ruiz fight standing in the corner with his hands on the ropes. In the Usyk fight he was on his stool after the fight and he probably would not have come out if there was another round.

        Joshua needs to walk away from the rematch and fight Wilder. A win over Usyk does nothing because he hasn't fought Fury. If he can beat Wilder that gives him status and confidence. A win over Usyk will not do anything for him unless it is impressive like when Ruiz got off the canvas and battered Joshua. I would never pick Joshua over Usyk in a dog fight though.

        All these excuses for Joshua. He should have been more cautious in the first Ruiz fight and he would have been okay... That is why he lost... He wasn't aggressive enough in the Usyk fight and that is why he lost... blah blah blah
        Ruiz Junior has gone from title contention, and is probably in a constant state of over-training these days. If Joshua ever fights Ruiz Junior again? He will win via stoppage.

        The dramatic change in lifestyle and training in my opinion, has weakened Ruiz Junior 'This is evident, by him being decked by Arreola'. Some boxers are better off with weight on them, I have compared Ruiz Junior before to a Walrus 'The Walrus needs its blubber to survive'. To a certain extent that was Ruiz Junior.

        The same thing happened with Chisora, when he very first teamed up with David Haye. Chisora went from not being decked for 7 years, to being sparked out badly by Dillian Whyte.

        When you have lived for so long with a certain lifestyle, and approached training with a certain intensity. Suddenly increasing that intensity, and going 180 degree's on lifestyle, can be extremely brutal on the physiology of the fighter.

        I don't think Ruiz Junior has gotten any better since he has been training with Canelo Alvarez. The dramatic changes in his training, I don't quite think his body is benefiting inside the ring 'Nowhere near as people would expect'.

        Joshua's win over Ruiz Junior was not impressive or emphatic, but he got the win. He got the win, while clearly dealing with his trauma.

        I don't think any of these fighters in the Heavyweight divisions are miles apart in terms of ability 'They are all beatable'.

        Joshua beats Usyk via stoppage in the rematch. He is not going to fight the same fight twice, and Usyk 'I don't think can really do anything much different, but react to what Joshua does'.


        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-30-2021, 09:39 AM.

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        • thack
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          #24
          Uysk is a more gifted boxer with much experience and natural ability and will always be favoured

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          • harry-greb
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            #25
            He might have the physical attributes but he doest have the mental

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            • Ry92
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              #26
              Its obvious aj has lost the killer instinct . always thought wilder beats aj cause dude chinny gets hurt every fight yet a chinny aj with no fire would get killed before 6. Usyk wins less aj magically finds the fire your not outboxing a boxing wizard like such and if scared to take risk for the ko goodluck winning . fury kills this aj too not as quick wilder though fury would try boxing for a little prolonging the fight wilder knows cant box which why early ko.

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              • 15round
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                #27
                Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk
                Aj has the phisical attributes of a cross trainer, not that of a boxer.
                Hearn managed Aj perfectly against big names that were shot 38-41 year old men 10 years past they're phisical primes (4of7) the last 2 he boxed of his own generation both beat him & Parker who wasn't allowed to hit back. Those stats don't lie.

                Froch comparing a 2 year's retired 41 year old Klitschko who Fury had already proven was shot because Klitschko couldn't even hit him to Usyk is rediculous. Aj didn't beat Klitschko, old father time did.
                AJ's size is a disadvantage, he's still wooden & slow when he's not fighting old men.

                What we should be talking about is Usyk, he has far superior boxing iq, speed, footwork, head movement & timing easily nullify Ajs lead hand defence & using it against him. He has decades of experience fighting orthadox fighter's bigger & smaller than him & unlike Aj he has dog in him, heart, determination & unlike the Rematchroom heavyweights it's not all about the money.

                Aj be in Dubai boutique training Bellews counter to the body left hook game plan.
                Meanwhile Usyks back in the matrix, & omg matrix 4 was so bad
                I agree. My guess is 90% of the people on posting on here don't even watch the whole fights. When I saw Klitschko fighting near the end of his career he looked like a 50 year old fighter. Mostly probing punches and holding. Fury and Joshua don't get much credit for those wins and rightfully so. Klitschko looked shot in the Jennings fight and was holding excessively. He fought Fury after that and about a year and half later he fought Joshua and retired. How can anyone give them much credit for those wins?

                I think Joshua was really rattled in the Ruiz fight and may not be the same again. After the second Ruiz fight Joshua said, "Man, the first time was so nice, I had to do it twice". He should watch the first fight because there was nothing nice in it for Joshua. There was nothing nice in the Usyk fight either. I don't seem him coming out for another round in the Usyk fight.

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