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  • DaNeutral.
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    Floyd and Leonard got Tank doing their own thing, they haven't tried to deny it and Leonard even called Tanks fans morons who are dumb enough to believe anything Leonard and Floyd tells and sells them. So good for them if that's the route they wana go, Boxing is a short career and a dangerous career so if they don't value the belts and want to chase money that is fine by me.

    But let's be real, this is a Boxing forum for Boxing fans and in true Boxing terms we can't be too impressed with Tank as a career Boxer given the route he has chosen. He isn't going to get the level of admiration his fans on here demand. Cuz he isn't putting in the work. You Tank fans can't have it both ways.

    It's all well and good saying Tank is the best and would beat all the cream at 135 and then say BUT HE ISN'T GOING TO. It's no use saying he could easy step up to 140 again and destroy undisputed champ Taylor BUT HE ISN'T GOING TO.

    If he isn't going to then we don't want to know.

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      #12
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Floyd and Leonard got Tank doing their own thing, they haven't tried to deny it and Leonard even called Tanks fans morons who are dumb enough to believe anything Leonard and Floyd tells and sells them. So good for them if that's the route they wana go, Boxing is a short career and a dangerous career so if they don't value the belts and want to chase money that is fine by me.

      But let's be real, this is a Boxing forum for Boxing fans and in true Boxing terms we can't be too impressed with Tank as a career Boxer given the route he has chosen. He isn't going to get the level of admiration his fans on here demand. Cuz he isn't putting in the work. You Tank fans can't have it both ways.

      It's all well and good saying Tank is the best and would beat all the cream at 135 and then say BUT HE ISN'T GOING TO. It's no use saying he could easy step up to 140 again and destroy undisputed champ Taylor BUT HE ISN'T GOING TO.

      If he isn't going to then we don't want to know.
      Why can’t a poster have that opinion of Tank? You don’t question if someone else has an opinion when a guy hasn’t fought them. So why just Tank?

      Tank just beat the IBF LW ranked 2nd in the world. A guy who was also top 10 in 2 other sanctioning bodies. The guy he beat before that, was undefeated. He went up to 140 to beat him.

      Why does the goalpost get moved solely for Tank? The opponents he fights are fine for other boxers. For example, Tank gets criticized for beating undefeated Linares while Loma gets credit for beating him years later.



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        #13
        Originally posted by EL_GRINGO
        Is that they don't want to dealing with mandatories from Haney and Lomachenko and other fighters , Don't expect Gervonta to fight any of these top fighters anytime soon
        - - Tanksy more likely to become pregnant again.

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          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          Why can’t a poster have that opinion of Tank? You don’t question if someone else has an opinion when a guy hasn’t fought them. So why just Tank?

          Tank just beat the IBF LW ranked 2nd in the world. A guy who was also top 10 in 2 other sanctioning bodies. The guy he beat before that, was undefeated. He went up to 140 to beat him.

          Why does the goalpost get moved solely for Tank? The opponents he fights are fine for other boxers. For example, Tank gets criticized for beating undefeated Linares while Loma gets credit for beating him years later.


          Because he has no intention of trying to prove it and his handlers openly back that up. By all means you live in your WOULD world were ypur favourite fighters don't actually have to prove it in the ring because your opinion is enough but I, and many others are a fan of the real sport not a hypothetical one.

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            Tank fans are morons and they'll get taken for their money as long as Floyd and Ellerbe think they can get away with it. People like to sh^^ on Floyd but at least he was fighting guys that were hot and coming off big wins. They're selling Tank against nobodies at this point while his whole division is hot and there are some studs at 140 also where he moved up to fight some random nobody cared about.

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              #16
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.

              Because he has no intention of trying to prove it and his handlers openly back that up. By all means you live in your WOULD world were ypur favourite fighters don't actually have to prove it in the ring because your opinion is enough but I, and many others are a fan of the real sport not a hypothetical one.
              They never said that. Floyd said in house fights only earlier last year. As I posted both in house fight5, Barrios and Cruz, we’re decent fights that you and others criticized for reasons other than their actual talent, skill and abilities.

              Your comment about living in a certain world is complete and utter bullish-t. You have given opinions on who you think will win a fight when guys haven’t fought. Yet you are criticizing Tank fans for doing same. Why?

              You also only mandate certain guys prove things. They always seem to be pbc boxers. If you had the same standard for everyone there would be no issue.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                Tank fans are morons and they'll get taken for their money as long as Floyd and Ellerbe think they can get away with it. People like to sh^^ on Floyd but at least he was fighting guys that were hot and coming off big wins. They're selling Tank against nobodies at this point while his whole division is hot and there are some studs at 140 also where he moved up to fight some random nobody cared about.
                Why do fans have to be morons if they choose to arch a Tank fight?

                Espn and hbo market “ Mexican warriors” and Mexican action. Are those fans morons to for paying their money to see lesser talented boxers?

                How are Cruz and Barrios nobodies?

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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  They never said that. Floyd said in house fights only earlier last year. As I posted both in house fight5, Barrios and Cruz, we’re decent fights that you and others criticized for reasons other than their actual talent, skill and abilities.

                  Your comment about living in a certain world is complete and utter bullish-t. You have given opinions on who you think will win a fight when guys haven’t fought. Yet you are criticizing Tank fans for doing same. Why?

                  You also only mandate certain guys prove things. They always seem to be pbc boxers. If you had the same standard for everyone there would be no issue.
                  Look, when Tank and his handlers come out and say "right we will actively look to take on the best fighters" and we see them actively trying to take on the best fighters then Tank is in the game, in the mix, but right now he has stepped to the side of the normal flow of top level Boxing, he is doing his own thing and his management make no secrets about it. Right now him and Ryan Garcia are in no position to be big talking and smack talking all those fighters they are not prepared to fight.

                  Haney, Loma, Teo, Kambosos are fighting in the championship circle, Tank and Ryan Garcia are not.

                  But the bug bear is the BS that comes from Tank, his handlers and his fans. We all know how Ellerbe washed away any thought of a Josh Taylor fight as Josh Taylor is an unknown. If they don't wana face Taylor that's fine but he's a bigger name than the 2 ppl Tank has faced since that comment. ELLERBE IS TALKING BS.

                  Imagine the magnitude with in the flow of normal championship Boxing of Tank beating Josh Taylor and becoming an undisputed world champion. But Nahhh he ain't a big draw?

                  Like I say, when Tank and his owners want to come to the party and be part of it then that's all good, Tank is a top notch Boxer and deserves to be allowed to mix it and try to become a great of the sport. But right now he isn't and won't try to do any of that yet his fans and handlers try to ram down our throats that he is a great of the sport.

                  Surely you must see that. You can accuse me of being like this just cuz he is PBC or black or what ever turns your cogs but the reality is he isn't fighting the best to prove he is the best while we get to hear about how he is the best but doesn't need to prove he is the best.


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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.

                    Look, when Tank and his handlers come out and say "right we will actively look to take on the best fighters" and we see them actively trying to take on the best fighters then Tank is in the game, in the mix, but right now he has stepped to the side of the normal flow of top level Boxing, he is doing his own thing and his management make no secrets about it. Right now him and Ryan Garcia are in no position to be big talking and smack talking all those fighters they are not prepared to fight.

                    Haney, Loma, Teo, Kambosos are fighting in the championship circle, Tank and Ryan Garcia are not.

                    But the bug bear is the BS that comes from Tank, his handlers and his fans. We all know how Ellerbe washed away any thought of a Josh Taylor fight as Josh Taylor is an unknown. If they don't wana face Taylor that's fine but he's a bigger name than the 2 ppl Tank has faced since that comment. ELLERBE IS TALKING BS.

                    Imagine the magnitude with in the flow of normal championship Boxing of Tank beating Josh Taylor and becoming an undisputed world champion. But Nahhh he ain't a big draw?

                    Like I say, when Tank and his owners want to come to the party and be part of it then that's all good, Tank is a top notch Boxer and deserves to be allowed to mix it and try to become a great of the sport. But right now he isn't and won't try to do any of that yet his fans and handlers try to ram down our throats that he is a great of the sport.

                    Surely you must see that. You can accuse me of being like this just cuz he is PBC or black or what ever turns your cogs but the reality is he isn't fighting the best to prove he is the best while we get to hear about how he is the best but doesn't need to prove he is the best.
                    You don’t mandate anyone else say that. Why Tank?

                    Tank’s last opponent was ranked higher by some bodies than Loma last 2 and Haney’s last opponents. He was right behind Teo’s last opponent in the ibf rankings. His previous opponent was undefeated in a higher weight class. How exactly are those out “out of the flow of top level boxing”?

                    why do you make such a big deal only about what Tank and his team say? You get so angry that they use their negotiating power. You’re never angry at anyone else that does this.

                    Tank just fought a dude ranked in the top 10 of 3 of the major sanctioning bodies, same as each boxer you posted above as “ fighting for championships”. Yet you’re only critical of Tank.

                    No one is ramming anything down your throat about Tank being great. Any assessment I’ve made is based on who he fought and defeated.

                    Cruz,Barrios, linares, Leo are all solid pros. If they fought any of the other guys I doubt you’d be as critical.

                    When Tank fights solid pros, you unfairly and falsely label them poor solely because it isn’t one of the guys you want, rather than base them on their skills and abilities. That is my issue.

                    Put it this way- Kambosis was about the same underdog to Teo as Cruz was to Tank. Kambosis #1 IBF, Cruz #2. You had no issue with Teo fighting Kambosis but you took issue with Tank fighting Cruz.

                    That simply doesn’t make any rational sense from a “ Normal flow of boxing” perspective. Your issue is clearly for another reason. What is that reason?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      You don’t mandate anyone else say that. Why Tank?

                      Tank’s last opponent was ranked higher by some bodies than Loma last 2 and Haney’s last opponents. He was right behind Teo’s last opponent in the ibf rankings. His previous opponent was undefeated in a higher weight class. How exactly are those out “out of the flow of top level boxing”?

                      why do you make such a big deal only about what Tank and his team say? You get so angry that they use their negotiating power. You’re never angry at anyone else that does this.

                      Tank just fought a dude ranked in the top 10 of 3 of the major sanctioning bodies, same as each boxer you posted above as “ fighting for championships”. Yet you’re only critical of Tank.

                      No one is ramming anything down your throat about Tank being great. Any assessment I’ve made is based on who he fought and defeated.

                      Cruz,Barrios, linares, Leo are all solid pros. If they fought any of the other guys I doubt you’d be as critical.

                      When Tank fights solid pros, you unfairly and falsely label them poor solely because it isn’t one of the guys you want, rather than base them on their skills and abilities. That is my issue.

                      Put it this way- Kambosis was about the same underdog to Teo as Cruz was to Tank. Kambosis #1 IBF, Cruz #2. You had no issue with Teo fighting Kambosis but you took issue with Tank fighting Cruz.

                      That simply doesn’t make any rational sense from a “ Normal flow of boxing” perspective. Your issue is clearly for another reason. What is that reason?
                      So what you are saying is I am wrong and Tank and his handlers are actively trying to get the fights against the champions or Loma or Teo? You know, the ones considered and ranked as the best.

                      The difference between Kambosos being as much of an under dog to Teo as Cruz was to Tank is Kambosos was a mandated fight for world titles. Teo didn't pick Kambosos he was mandated to fight him. Can you say the same for Tank, did some governing body rule that Tank had to fight Cruz? Or Romero?

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