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  • #41
    Originally posted by denium View Post
    Usyk's alleged superior skillset over Fury isn't enough to overcome the size difference
    I'm not sure he does have a superior skillset... Although I can't really pick a winner between them cos there both so technically sound but the claim he more skillful doesn't wash with me, I'm not saying he's not ridiculously talented but so is fury, this matchup would be a dream

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    • #42
      Originally posted by First order View Post
      joshua has been exposed it's that simple, fighting over the hill past sell by date boxers and an excellent promotion to cast him as something he is definitely not has added to the enjoyment of Usyk schooling joshua...
      You mean all the boxers he had to fight to keep his belts? You make epicly ****** points, Joshua is barely in the top 4 heavyweights now in this era but he damn sure has the best resume even if some were past prime

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Haka View Post
        Usyk outboxes Fury. Leaning on Usyk will not work, Ursk is too smart for that and will EITHER angle away with his fast feet if Fury will attempt this whilst throwing a straight left to the stomach all night OR smartly cover up like a troyan horse and let Fury tire and exchange shots with him punch for punch knowing that as the rounds go by the gastank of Fury will deflate (Fury has no knockout power on the inside since he cannot get that much leverage on the inside with his long limbs). Usyk tempo is much higher and has many gears. Fury might have some success in the early rounds, but the tempo that is required to put the heat on Usyk will not be sustainable and his gastank will empty fast. Remember that this is not sparring where Fury claims to go on for 30 rounds, this is a real fight with punches being thrown with real intentions. This means Usyk will take over in the later rounds and will be hammering in those left hands which will be bothersome to Fury, and cruise to a UD.

        Not saying Usyk is the GOAT but I do not see Fury outboxing him due to Usyk slickness and fast feet. Fury is looking old and slow as well, I'd pick a 2015 Fury over this Usyk but that Fury is long gone.
        What have u been watching? This version of fury is levels above the fury from 2015, he can fight in many different ways now, whereas in 2015 the only thing he did was try to outbox ppl, now he fights based off of the skills of his opposition and what will work best... How does that make him worse than 2015???

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        • #44
          Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
          If Usyk was some really elusive fighter, I’d say he stands a better chance. In fact, his defence isn’t great, he gets tagged a fair bit and his style is based on pressure with the feet and moving off to an angle

          That’ll work v a big stiff timid bodybuilder like AJ who will feel that pressure and hasn’t got the ring IQ to negate angles.

          Fury is a master of distance control. He could either keep Usyk at such a distance with that reach that Usyk’s use of angles are of no use, they only work at a certain distance. Then if Usyk wants to get close, Fury will just wrap him up, ragdoll him and drain him, which AJ didn’t know how to do. He isn’t just going to stand at a middle distance without knowing what to do, like AJ did.

          Usyk has very little chance v Fury really. Fury is too good in almost every department to let Usyk dictate things. Size does also matter when it’s two elite fighters. Fury v Usyk is an elite match up.

          Usyk v AJ was an elite fighter v a solid world level fighter who is timid with no real ring savvy. There’s a difference.

          Im an Usyk fan too, he and Fury are probably my two favourite fighters around now, but there’s only one winner.
          Watch the first 3 rounds of the usyk v bellew fight back, I know usyk is a remarkably slow starter so that could have had a bit to do with it but bellew outboxed usyk clearly in those 3 rounds and the fight only changed course due to him taunting usyk just before the bell like the massive bell*nd he is and ended getting caught by a huge punch at the same time, I'm not saying usyk would have lost that fight if that never happened but bellew isn't classed as an all time great, infact far from it, and he genuinely gave usyk big problems at first, I believe fury will do the same and rack up atleast the first 6 rounds, the question is can usyk rally late on when Tysons output has dropped, which is a likely outcome during the back end of the fight as usyk has an ability to work fighters out and that's what makes him so good

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Tony Green View Post

            I'm not sure he does have a superior skillset... Although I can't really pick a winner between them cos there both so technically sound but the claim he more skillful doesn't wash with me, I'm not saying he's not ridiculously talented but so is fury, this matchup would be a dream
            Fury is the complete package, size, skills and the heart of lion.

            Fury needs to get himself back into the shape that he was in for the second Wilder fight, he was an absolute unit but still had that footwork and head movement.

            If he turns up in the same shape that he was in for his last fight, he'll probably lose. Usyk isn't the kind of the guy you can beat unprepared.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by denium View Post

              Fury is the complete package, size, skills and the heart of lion.

              Fury needs to get himself back into the shape that he was in for the second Wilder fight, he was an absolute unit but still had that footwork and head movement.

              If he turns up in the same shape that he was in for his last fight, he'll probably lose. Usyk isn't the kind of the guy you can beat unprepared.
              Completely agree, John fury claimed he had a terrible camp, and he was in Vegas and we know Tyson finds it hard to live like a monk in Morecambe let alone Vegas, so I'm putting that performance down to that really, I don't think Tyson is underestimating usyk so I think he'll come in at his best but u never really know with him

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Tony Green View Post

                Completely agree, John fury claimed he had a terrible camp, and he was in Vegas and we know Tyson finds it hard to live like a monk in Morecambe let alone Vegas, so I'm putting that performance down to that really, I don't think Tyson is underestimating usyk so I think he'll come in at his best but u never really know with him
                Fury will see Usyk as his legacy fight and should turn up for it in the shape of his life.
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                Then again, you never know with Fury, recent signs don't look all that encouraging tbh.

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                • #48
                  I believe Usyk is the underdog here, just because of size, and really nothing else. He would dominate a same-sized Fury, because he excels in every other area, especially activity, stamina, IQ, and evasiveness.

                  But Fury is much bigger, and that's what makes it a good fight. Plus, a lot of folks aren't convinced about Fury; they feel he hasn't proved his abilities against top names, to their satisfaction. So that's a factor too.

                  My money is on Usyk. He's a hard-training boxer 100% of the time and displays the kind of sportsmanship I like to see. It's easy to see he's given his all and been blessed in his career. After watching some of the remarks Fury made, I'm betting on Usyk.

                  I think AJ hurt him a few times, and it's entirely possible that Fury will. I just think pride goes before destruction. You might not agree, but saying some obscene stuff against a guy who always shows respect... To me that's a classic setup for a downfall, and I think Usyk will make him eat his words.

                  We just need a date, and then we can all see if our theories play out.

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                  • #49
                    If usyk beat tyson fury 2x it would be a feat to remember n truthfully would rate usyk at top 10 atg. If usyk adds wilder to the list then talking top 5 #2 or 3 hw all time. Think bout it all those fights usyk vs aj fury n wilder no1 expects or expected usyk to win if did such thats serious shhh plus 3 top 3 or even 5 wins which is more than fury or wilder has

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Ry92 View Post
                      If usyk beat tyson fury 2x it would be a feat to remember n truthfully would rate usyk at top 10 atg. If usyk adds wilder to the list then talking top 5 #2 or 3 hw all time. Think bout it all those fights usyk vs aj fury n wilder no1 expects or expected usyk to win if did such thats serious shhh plus 3 top 3 or even 5 wins which is more than fury or wilder has
                      This would only make sense if Fury and Wilder were ATG boxers, and neither of them are close yet and most likely never will. Fury isn’t even HoF yet on current achievements alone, so why tf would beating him catapult Usyk to top 10 ATG?

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