Comments Thread For: Canelo on Criticism That He is Avoiding Benavidez, Charlo: 'Haters Are Always Going To Be Haters'

[M111]

Canelo. He is capable of beating any & all in his weight class aka Benavidez and Charlo. He will flatline either or both. He isn't 'ducking either of those two- believing such is nonsense and delusional. GGG would have KO'd both of those clowns.

Based on what? Neither Benavidez nor Charlo have even been in a close fight let alone stopped. The only person of Benavidez size Canelo has stopped was a shot Kovalev. He couldn’t stop Smith. Benavidez hasn’t even been wobbled. If you’ve watched or been involved with fighters long enough, comments like this just illustrate a lack of understanding of the game. Why do you think there is so much commentary about Canelo ducking Benavidez on every boxing forum? Because the consensus is that he’ll give him a seriously hard fight. But no, you know better than all the pundits, the fighters, the trainers and pretty much everyone involved in boxing and believe he’ll knock him out easily - so, back to my first question, based on what? Go on, share your in depth knowledge of the sport and tell us why you think that?

[Griever0730]

Yes, if they want those big $$$ then go fight and earn it. Why doesn't Charlo actually fight someone @ 168 like benevidez? Benevidez challenge @ 175? Canelo gets criticised for picking fights,vehy don't these other guys pick the same kind of fights?

On this point, they can't. They don't have leverage to do what Canelo does bc they don't control their career. Anybody that controls what path they wanna take is always gonna be envied and criticized by those that can't. Just the ways of the world I guess.

[Walexhris]

Canelo. He is capable of beating any & all in his weight class aka Benavidez and Charlo. He will flatline either or both. He isn't 'ducking either of those two- believing such is nonsense and delusional. GGG would have KO'd both of those clowns.

I agree, but is that an exuse not to fight them? We know for sure that he'd flatline makabu......so what the point here?

[thereeldeel]

These Phaggots need to fight each other to earn a fight with Canelo.

[turnedup]

I think what gets lost in the talk about money and controlling your career around here is, has he tried to make those fights? The answer is? So yes, in a demand business he’s gonna take lower risk higher reward. He isn’t a payday to anyone til he offers them the fight and honestly he hasn’t, so…he’s also gotta have an opponent across from him that he can dictate everything to. That’s cool, doesn’t mean when he offers to the fight to someone it’ll be accepted. Not a duck, just being real. It’s a business, people talk about criticism, well with big bucks comes expectations. He could’ve arguably cleaned out his divisions in swift fashion. You see how fast he can book a fight. He hasn’t. He’s targeting his next marketing angle. That’s fine. Just be real about it fam. I’m all ok with fighters getting everything they can but don’t fake the funk, most of these fights have been snatch and grabs. He will face those names eventually we all want but let’s call what he’s done this run what it is, stacking the bank.

[SteveM]

I agree, but is that an exuse not to fight them? We know for sure that he'd flatline makabu......so what the point here?

Have you ever watched Makabu fight? Just because he is not a known name doesn't mean he is crap. He has decent footwork, decent chin and above average power for a CW - not necessarily one-punch power but a kind of thudding power that wears opponents down.

I've tried to think who'd have similar skills to him at a lower weight. I thought Eubanks Jr but Makabu is a better boxer than him. Possibly the Sullivan Barrera that fought Ward (who was no pushover for Ward). Imagine if Spence would skip a division to fight Eubanks JR? Who you got? The bookies would have Spence as a narrow favourite based more on his record so he'd find a way. That is exactly how they should have Canelo against Makabu - as a slight favourite. But maybe people like you will pile in on Canelo and I'll take the value bet on Makabu.

If Jermell Charlo skips 2 divisions to fight Saunders or Plant - who you got ?

Makabu vs Mchunu is not a gimme for Makabu either. Mchunu is competitive. If I was Makabu's trainer I'd tell him not to to look too good against Mchunu or he'll lose the Canelo fight.

[daggum]

These Phaggots need to fight each other to earn a fight with Canelo.

yildram fights beterbiev and winner gets canelo

[SteveM]

I think what gets lost in the talk about money and controlling your career around here is, has he tried to make those fights? The answer is? So yes, in a demand business he’s gonna take lower risk higher reward. He isn’t a payday to anyone til he offers them the fight and honestly he hasn’t, so…he’s also gotta have an opponent across from him that he can dictate everything to. That’s cool, doesn’t mean when he offers to the fight to someone it’ll be accepted. Not a duck, just being real. It’s a business, people talk about criticism, well with big bucks comes expectations. He could’ve arguably cleaned out his divisions in swift fashion. You see how fast he can book a fight. He hasn’t. He’s targeting his next marketing angle. That’s fine. Just be real about it fam. I’m all ok with fighters getting everything they can but don’t fake the funk, most of these fights have been snatch and grabs. He will face those names eventually we all want but let’s call what he’s done this run what it is, stacking the bank.

That's all true - but he is also looking at legacy - weak division or not he cleared out 168 - nobody else had done that for a long time. Kovalev, although showing signs of being shop worn was not a fight without danger. Makabu is a similar fight - he should win it but it won't be an easy fight. Reynoso thinks he has seen a weakness and probably he has. But seeing something and exploiting it are two different things.

[James Hunt]

Interestingly. you always forget to mention Andrade, cuz Canelo wants no part of him, too.
Or have you maybe been banned to mention names of guys from "the other side of the street", just like PBC fighters, trainers, managers and other occultists have been banned to comment on non-PBC fights on social media lately?

[Boro]

Have you ever watched Makabu fight? Just because he is not a known name doesn't mean he is crap. He has decent footwork, decent chin and above average power for a CW - not necessarily one-punch power but a kind of thudding power that wears opponents down.

I've tried to think who'd have similar skills to him at a lower weight. I thought Eubanks Jr but Makabu is a better boxer than him. Possibly the Sullivan Barrera that fought Ward (who was no pushover for Ward). Imagine if Spence would skip a division to fight Eubanks JR? Who you got? The bookies would have Spence as a narrow favourite based more on his record so he'd find a way. That is exactly how they should have Canelo against Makabu - as a slight favourite. But maybe people like you will pile in on Canelo and I'll take the value bet on Makabu.

If Jermell Charlo skips 2 divisions to fight Saunders or Plant - who you got ?

Makabu vs Mchunu is not a gimme for Makabu either. Mchunu is competitive. If I was Makabu's trainer I'd tell him not to to look too good against Mchunu or he'll lose the Canelo fight.

Mchunu is not competitive in the slightest he lost the last fight with Makabu because he gassed badly in the latter half his gas tank wouldn't of improved in the last 7/8 years unless he's got a good "diet" let's be real here...

As for Makabu not being crap he is, the only worthwhile attribute he has is his power and even then it's nothing to right home about, he does not have a decent chin and certainly doesn't have decent footwork, don't know what give you that impression.

He's the smallest Cruiserweight champion often has weighed between 193-197 the most vulnerable, the least skilled and the easiest to hit perfect opponent to make a "legacy defining" fight with.