Comments Thread For: Spence-Ugas Title Unification in Play; Stanionis Agrees To Step Aside, Will Next Face Butaev

[aboutfkntime]

You don't understand what a fact is.

Crawford asked for 50/50 first, which was far less justifiable than 70/30. I know you desperately want to ignore that part. There's no dis*****g that Spence is a bigger draw than Crawford, so you just keep trying to change the subject to anything other than the actual subject, which is who is the bigger draw? Clearly the answer is Spence, so you just keep resorting to your lame distraction tactics.

you are totally missing the point, you dumb kid... because I have answered that question many times...

FACT: Spence is not a star... so... WHO FKN CARES, you muppet

stop crying about another man's money

FACT: if Spence wanted that fight, he would not have made that ridiculous demand... because FACT: he will make more off a Crawford fight, than off any other opponent... whether that fight happens at 60/40, or 50/50... AND... it will give him an opportunity to actually become a star by SIGNIFICANTLY raising his profile - and his future purses - with a signature win in a career-defining fight

stop being such a small-minded, excuse-making, fanboy... WTF?

you Spence fans are bltches for co-signing that weak excuse allowing Spence to avoid that fight... have some pride, you should be demanding that fight

I haven't heard this many weak excuses since Golovkin






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[Gary Coleman]

Ugas, and then Crawford, then I won't have any beef.

If he doesn't fight Crawford next, then there's no excuse except Spence is ducking Crawford

What if he fights Boots instead because Crawford insists on an even split?

[WBC WBA IBF]

FACT: if Spence wanted that fight, he would not have made that ridiculous demand

Crawford asked for 50/50, which is a more ridiculous demand than Spence asking for 70/30.

So the person who made the more ridiculous demand, and made it first, is the one who deserves the blame for killing the fight. I know it's very important to you to ignore how ridiculous 50/50 is for a fight where one fighter clearly makes so much more than the other.

[HrNY]

What if he fights Boots instead because Crawford insists on an even split?

Both aren't big draws. Take the 50/50 split and show who's best.

[aboutfkntime]

Crawford asked for 50/50, which is a more ridiculous demand than Spence asking for 70/30.

So the person who made the more ridiculous demand, and made it first, is the one who deserves the blame for killing the fight. I know it's very important to you to ignore how ridiculous 50/50 is for a fight where one fighter clearly makes so much more than the other.

you proved that you are just a whiney fanboy clown when you ignored this post...

FACT: if Spence wanted that fight, he would not have made that ridiculous demand... because FACT: he will make more off a Crawford fight, than off any other opponent... whether that fight happens at 60/40, or 50/50... AND... it will give him an opportunity to actually become a star by SIGNIFICANTLY raising his profile - and his future purses - with a signature win in a career-defining fight

stop being such a small-minded, excuse-making, fanboy... WTF?

you Spence fans are bltches for co-signing that weak excuse allowing Spence to avoid that fight... have some pride, you should be demanding that fight

have some pride man, wtf ???





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[aboutfkntime]

you are totally missing the point, you dumb kid... because I have answered that question many times...

FACT: Spence is not a star... so... WHO FKN CARES, you muppet

stop crying about another man's money

FACT: if Spence wanted that fight, he would not have made that ridiculous demand... because FACT: he will make more off a Crawford fight, than off any other opponent... whether that fight happens at 60/40, or 50/50... AND... it will give him an opportunity to actually become a star by SIGNIFICANTLY raising his profile - and his future purses - with a signature win in a career-defining fight

stop being such a small-minded, excuse-making, fanboy... WTF?

you Spence fans are bltches for co-signing that weak excuse allowing Spence to avoid that fight... have some pride, you should be demanding that fight

I haven't heard this many weak excuses since Golovkin

FACT: Mayweather gave Pacquiao 60/40 despite the fact that his earning rate was much closer to 80% than 60%, because...

1) IT ENABLED HIM TO MAKE MORE... because Pacquiao was a high caliber opponent, that would generate a LOT of interest

2) that was a very credible win that increased his earning potential even more

3) he knew that would win the fight


only two of those facts apply to Spence, I will leave you to figure out which two

and Canelo did the exact sme thing with Golovkin in the rematch

come on man... you claim to understand this game, but you blurt out the same nonsense as the excuse-making fanboys... wtf?






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[LeOoze]

you are totally missing the point, you dumb kid... because I have answered that question many times...

FACT: Spence is not a star... so... WHO FKN CARES, you muppet

stop crying about another man's money

FACT: if Spence wanted that fight, he would not have made that ridiculous demand... because FACT: he will make more off a Crawford fight, than off any other opponent... whether that fight happens at 60/40, or 50/50... AND... it will give him an opportunity to actually become a star by SIGNIFICANTLY raising his profile - and his future purses - with a signature win in a career-defining fight

stop being such a small-minded, excuse-making, fanboy... WTF?

you Spence fans are bltches for co-signing that weak excuse allowing Spence to avoid that fight... have some pride, you should be demanding that fight

I haven't heard this many weak excuses since Golovkin






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70/30 was a joke but Spence asking for 60/40 is fair. Bud asking for 50/50 is ridiculous when you consider
1. Bud's ppvs are flops. Spence/danny ppv sold almost all 3 of bud's ppv. Spence isn't Canelo/AJ but he's a draw and Bud isn't.
2. Should spence get past Ugas...he'll have 3 belts in comparison to Bud's 1. And the WBO is not as coveted as the WBC/IBF
3. Spence has the better resume, regardless of 147 or overall.

you said spence priced himself out...Bud did the same asking for 50/50. He even went as far as to say that if the fight wasn't 60/40 in his favor then the fight wasn't gonna happen.

[WBC WBA IBF]

[B]FACT: Mayweather gave Pacquiao 60/40 despite the fact that his earning rate was much closer to 80% than 60%

Hahahhaa you ****ing fool. You just put yourself in checkmate.

Like Crawford, Pacquiao asked for 50/50. Like Spence, Mayweather countered with 70/30 even though his earning rate was much closer to 80%.

They compromised at 60/40.

Which is what will happen with Crawford and Spence.

[aboutfkntime]

70/30 was a joke but Spence asking for 60/40 is fair. Bud asking for 50/50 is ridiculous when you consider
1. Bud's ppvs are flops. Spence/danny ppv sold almost all 3 of bud's ppv. Spence isn't Canelo/AJ but he's a draw and Bud isn't.
2. Should spence get past Ugas...he'll have 3 belts in comparison to Bud's 1. And the WBO is not as coveted as the WBC/IBF
3. Spence has the better resume, regardless of 147 or overall.

you said spence priced himself out...Bud did the same asking for 50/50. He even went as far as to say that if the fight wasn't 60/40 in his favor then the fight wasn't gonna happen.

I never heard that,... and, I highly doubt that... link ?

if you can produce a link proving that Crawford made that comment, it would prove that NEITHER of those guys were seriously interested in making that fight

but there would need to be context behind the comment... if Crawford made that comment in jest, or in immediate reply to that slap in the face from Spence... then it cannot be viewed in the same light

was it a serious comment from Crawford? or was it a defensive comment made in direct reply to that insulting 70/30 lowball from Spence?

you called that offer a joke, and it was obviously extremely insulting to Crawford... both as a TOP P4P fighter, and as a person... so if Crawford made that comment in direct reply to that "joke" (your words) offer from Spence, then... Q. how can a joke be taken seriously? ... A. it can't, and neither can the reply

link me to that comment, so we can see the context

the point that ABC kept choosing to miss was...

Spence made (according to you) an offer that was a total joke, ABC even admitted that 70/30 was ridiculous...

just as ridiculous, if not more so, than Spence demanding 70/30

... that was OBVIOUSLY an insulting "take-it-or-leave-it" lowball... and, FACT: that is NOT how you make a fight... NO top fight ever got made that way, not even Mayweather/Pacquiao... and Mayweather far outsold Pacquiao in every department, their numbers were not even close

FACT: a " take-it-or-leave-it " offer... is a 100% roadblock... that is NOT how you make a fight, promoters simply do not work that way... they negotiate in good faith

not even superstars like Canelo/Joshua pull that garbage... and if they did, nobody would take them seriously either

you seem like a reasonable guy, because you admit that 70/30 is a joke... so I am sure you will agree that when the offer is a " joke ", and the conditions are "take-it-or-leave-it"... then that is NOT an offer made in good faith, it is a roadblock that will never happen... because promoters simply do not work that way, it does not happen... and Spence is well aware of that fact

if Crawford said " if the fight wasn't 60/40 in his favor then the fight wasn't gonna happen "... in any other context, than a direct reply to that insulting slap-in-the-face from Spence... then I will agree that neither of those guys were seriously interested in making that fight

the only other issue would be... Bob Arum... no way would Arum ever consider 70/30, and most likely not 60/40 either... and Spence is 100% aware of that fact also

I am not trying to use Arum as an excuse, or trying to use him to protect Crawford... because a fighter is 100% responsible for the words/actions of his official representatives... what I am saying is... Crawford was NOT happy with Arum's performance, so he left Top Rank... but Spence is so content with his promoters performance in securing everyone EXCEPT Terrence Crawford, that he throws around "joke" offers that could never be taken seriously

I do admit that missing the Pacquiao fight was possibly a factor in Crawford's decision to leave Top Rank, so I am not using Arum as an excuse... but I don't know how seriously Crawford viewed that fight, because nobody thought that Pacquiao would ever fight him... and Arum is on public record saying that he refused to make Pacquiao/Crawford because he was "worried about Manny's health"... and I can provide a link for that

you made some fair points bro, and I do agree that Spence is in a great position if he unifies with Ugas... but like I said earlier... when the offer is a " joke ", and the conditions are "take-it-or-leave-it"... then that is NOT an offer made in good faith... it is a 100% roadblock, and a show-stopper that will never happen

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[aboutfkntime]

Hahahhaa you ****ing fool. You just put yourself in checkmate.

Like Crawford, Pacquiao asked for 50/50. Like Spence, Mayweather countered with 70/30 even though his earning rate was much closer to 80%.

They compromised at 60/40.

Which is what will happen with Crawford and Spence.

so...

1) the SUPERSTAR, Mayweather... accepted 60%, even though he was worth 80%... simply because... that fight would generate enough money to justify paying Pacquiao more that he was worth, for the two reasons that I stated above... a) because Mayweather would make more money fighting Pacquiao, that he would by fighting any other opponent... b) it gave Mayweather the opportunity to earn even bigger purses in future fights, by raising his profile with a signature win

2) they compromised... they negotiated in good faith... even though Mayweather was worth MUCH more than Pacquiao, he did not make a "take-it-or-leave-it" offer... simply because, that is NOT how you make a fight... promoters simply do not work that way, they negotiate in good faith




here is the point you totally missed buddy... FACT: Errol " money " Spence did NEITHER of those things




FACT: Spence is NOT a superstar, Mayweather is... and yet... Mayweather was willing to accept less than he was worth, and Spence was not

FACT: Mayweather IS a superstar, and Spence is not... and yet... Mayweather was willing to compromise... and Errol "money" Spence, was not LMAO




you check-mated yourself when you admitted that offer from Spence was ridiculous...

just as ridiculous, if not more so, than Spence demanding 70/30

... and you are dreaming if you think a "take-it-or-leave-it" offer is anything but a total duck... simply because, that is NOT how you make a fight... it simply does not happen, not even with superstars like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Canelo, Joshua... they negotiate in good faith




I am sorry that I insulted you earlier... that was unnecessary, and that was out of line... but you are NOT being reasonable, and you are not behaving knowledgeably

peace






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