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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
Do you like knockouts and great fights? Great skills? If so you'll get more of that at the weights below heavyweight. That's the bottom line.
But they're all modified versions of the sport.
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Originally posted by lopetego View PostThe HW division is the flagship division of boxing
too bad since the last true GREAT heavyweights retired (The Klistchkos), the belts were taken by chumps
The best HW atm is an undersized cruiserweight, that's all you need to know
That's the beauty of the division. There's no cutting, no weight cheats, no rehydration clauses. It's just the best fighting the best. Don't worry about his weight or whether he is undersized - the heavyweight championship isn't a weight class, it's the open category. That's why it's the main division.
If Fury can beat everyone then he's the best. If Usyk can do it, then he's the best.
The other divisions are fun. But they're not the best fighters.
If they were able to beat the 'chumps', then they would do what Usyk did. And don't get me started on the number of weight classes and that P4P nonsense.
There are no 'chumps' at the pinnacle of the sport.Butt stuff likes this.
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Originally posted by REDEEMER View PostPosters are only fooling themselves. Any and all boxing fans know nothing’s more intriguing then a heavyweight fight . Everyone comes running to see a great fight between two big men that’s why it’s carried the sport for decades and no other sport gets the attention when it happens .
The spotlight has been on the lower weights like Mayweather and Pacquiao and Canelo etc. To the point that when I watch the big slugs fight these days it's usually boring, there is a lack of action and the skillsets are considerably inferior.
Outside of Tyson Fury and Usyk who do a good job of carrying the skills flag for the heavys.
Originally posted by Toffee View Post
And Paralympians put on incredible displays. Minimumweights display phenomenal speed and stamina. The women go hell for leather.
But they're all modified versions of the sport.
If you don't watch this sport for great fights and for spectacular knockouts and for skillful fighting then what exactly are you watching it for?Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 12-21-2021, 08:58 AM.
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Originally posted by Toffee View Post
If Usyk is the best, then it's because he's the best.
That's the beauty of the division. There's no cutting, no weight cheats, no rehydration clauses. It's just the best fighting the best. Don't worry about his weight or whether he is undersized - the heavyweight championship isn't a weight class, it's the open category. That's why it's the main division.
If Fury can beat everyone then he's the best. If Usyk can do it, then he's the best.
The other divisions are fun. But they're not the best fighters.
If they were able to beat the 'chumps', then they would do what Usyk did. And don't get me started on the number of weight classes and that P4P nonsense.
There are no 'chumps' at the pinnacle of the sport.
With the introduction of day before weigh ins, this has changed and distorted the lower weight divisions.
I have went on record before and stated? Most of the champions today in the lower weight classes, would not be able to compete in past generations. Because they heavily relie on weight cutting and manipulating aspects of their game 'Due to the day before weigh in's' and other aspects of modern day boxing.
Canelo Alvarez going back in history would not be going up and down in weight like a yo yo, his position would be more static. I have even suggested that if he was competing ring the 90's or early 2000's, he would go no higher than 160 pounds 'Due to the strength and depth of the middle-weight to light heavyweight divisions back then'.
Only fighters such as Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch 'Fighters I know, always stayed every close to their fight weight'. Only those fighters could go back in time, and compete in any area 'Without changing much about their lifestyles and training routines'.
That is what you call a 'Old School fighter'. In the heavyweight division, Lennox Lewis due to his training methodologies was also a old school fighter, most of these fighters about these days? Would deflate and pop like a balloon if the could not buy their tubs of protein powder 'Mike Tyson was another old school fighter'.
Fighters such as Alvarez are bi-products of the modern game, and he heavily relies on all the sport science and doing big weight cuts 'To be the big man on fight night'.
My favorite divisions are the Welter, Middle Weight and Heavyweight divisions. But the heavyweight divisions due to it being a open class, is the ultimate division 'Purest form of competition'.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
Heavyweights haven't carried the sport for a while now.
The spotlight has been on the lower weights like Mayweather and Pacquiao and Canelo etc. To the point that when I watch the big slugs fight these days it's usually boring, there is a lack of action and the skillsets are considerably inferior.
Outside of Tyson Fury and Usyk who do a good job of carrying the skills flag for the heavys.
I'm just letting you know, the Knockouts of the Year and the Fights of the Year have overwhelmingly NOT been coming from the heavyweights in the past 3 decades.
If you don't watch this sport for great fights and for spectacular knockouts and for skillful fighting then what exactly are you watching it for?
On a primal level, somewhere it matters to people. Because if you take away all of society's civilized ways, and sophistication.
These are the men that stand on top of the world.
At the Olympic Games, out of all the sports that are participating. Since the beginning of those games, the biggest event has always been the 100 meters final.
And all of this is because, on a primal level. Forget your social media, forget all these other professions.
There are two things that matter in the jungle, can you fight? And how fast can you run? That is it.
And all these other things have branch off from this, kicking a football around a field, hitting a tennis ball over a net, running around carrying rugby ball. All of these activities are abbreviations of those two things that matter on a primal level 'Can you fight, how fast can you run'.
The more comfortable society has become, the more cushy for people. The more popular, the sophisticated sports have become 'The more barbaric society was, the only things that mattered were combat sports, and pure athletic competitions' that is it.
The heavyweight division is a very pure form, raw form of competition.Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-21-2021, 05:50 PM.
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Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View PostPeople who hate on heavyweight are low testosterone girly boys who probably weigh a buck 50.
Nothing beats a heavyweight war of two men over 240lbs loading up the kitchen sink, no pitty pat, no tap dancing, no twinkle toes pirouetting, just big brutes whacking away at each others heads.
That fight made me want to go out and bend some ***** over and **** the **** out of her, really got the juices flowing.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
In the sport of boxing, nothing compares to a heavyweight title bout. It does not matter how you dress it up.
On a primal level, somewhere it matters to people. Because if you take away all of society's civilized ways, and sophistication.
These are the men that stand on top of the world.
At the Olympic Games, out of all the sports that and athletes that compete. Since the beginning of those games, the biggest event has always been the 100 meters final.
And all of this is because, on a primal level. Forget your social media, forget all these other professions.
There are two things that matter in the jungle, can you fight? And how fast can you run? That is it.
And all these other things have branch off from this, kicking a football around a field, hitting a tennis ball over a net, running around carrying rugby ball. All of these activities are abbreviations of those two things that matter on a primal level 'Can you fight, how fast can you run'.
The more comfortable society has become, the more cushy for people. The more popular, the sophisticated sports have become 'The more barbaric society was, the only things that mattered were combat sports, and pure athletic competitions' that is it.
The heavyweight division is a very pure form, raw form of competition.
I like and watch heavyweight boxing too but the fact is that the actual fighting ability of the big men hasn't been the best in the sport for a while.
Charles Martin could beat Chocolatito in the ring just due to size. But given the choice I'll watch a Chocolatito fight over a Charles Martin fight every single time.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
I'm just letting you know, the Knockouts of the Year and the Fights of the Year have overwhelmingly NOT been coming from the heavyweights in the past 3 decades.
If you don't watch this sport for great fights and for spectacular knockouts and for skillful fighting then what exactly are you watching it for?
The rest are for entertainment, and that's fine. I love watching lower weights but it's not the same as watching the very best fight for the ultimate title in sport.Earl-Hickey likes this.
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