The Honest Truth About 135

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

    I think Loma murders Jo Jo and Cruz, but styles make fights and Loma still could lose to Tank and Haney. Anyone with a height/reach disadvantage is food for Loma if they don't have power.
    I don’t think it’s cut and dry, but I think Loma definitely starts as a considerable favourite against both.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      I don’t think it’s cut and dry, but I think Loma definitely starts as a considerable favourite against both.
      I think it is, throwing out the salido fight we've never seen Loma come close to struggling against anyone that didn't have a big size advantage over him.

      Actually you don't even need to throw out the salido fight, salido missed weight and came in 20lbs more than Loma fight night

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        #13
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

        I think it is, throwing out the salido fight we've never seen Loma come close to struggling against anyone that didn't have a big size advantage over him.

        Actually you don't even need to throw out the salido fight, salido missed weight and came in 20lbs more than Loma fight night
        The Salido fight was more down to a lack of experience IMO. Loma is definitely beatable at 135, he lacks size and probably power as well to an extent, however I still think he has more than enough to beat Kambosos, Haney and even Tank etc. They’re still interesting fights though, you never know how styles will gel on the night.

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          #14
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

          The Salido fight was more down to a lack of experience IMO. Loma is definitely beatable at 135, he lacks size and probably power as well to an extent, however I still think he has more than enough to beat Kambosos, Haney and even Tank etc. They’re still interesting fights though, you never know how styles will gel on the night.
          Lack of experience, but against round 12 he figured salido out. I definitely think he CAN beat those guys, I just don't know if he will.

          JoJo and Cruz I can confidently say he wins, we already saw what he did to Russell and what Russell did to Jojo, Cruz "defining" win was over a faded Vargas who had already been brutally KOd twice by Berchelt and it was hardly impressive. Loma is a massive massive step up from old Vargas.

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          • mxtali
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            #15
            Lomas kryptonite is guys that can punch and those they aren’t afraid to get in his face and rough him up. Not because he has a bad chin necessarily but because we see his output drops.

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              #16
              I don't really care for this division anymore, sick of them all fighting these sort of fringe contender types and us making comparisons or trying to.
              Beating Commey and Jojo Diaz it just doesn't tell me anything really but they can beat B-/C level guys.

              ''I think such and such is best because he looked better vs the gatekeeper he fought than this other whazzock did vs the gatekeeper he fought''
              Its tiresome. Fight each other already or stop wasting everyones time

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                #17
                i see it as everything thats wrong with boxing. lots of talking on twitter, the best guys being decided by who looks best against a mutual b or c level opponent. theres literally no excuses for these guys not to all be fighting each other but they are terrified about losing their zeros. kambosos was a cherry pick gone wrong too so not giving lopez any credit for picking him.

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                  #18
                  As a Haney fan I'll openly admit that Jojo Diaz doesn't beat any top LW and any proper elite one should bludgeon his little ass. Idgaf what his rating is or was he isn't an elite LW, period.

                  I've no interest in seeing Cryan Garcia, Kambosos or someone topping that win either. Be hard not to beat him in better fashion tbh

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                    #19
                    Don’t forget Ryan Garcia he’s arguably the hardest Hitter of them all coupled with his speed and height he’ll be a nightmare for all of them.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by dan_cov
                      As a Haney fan I'll openly admit that Jojo Diaz doesn't beat any top LW and any proper elite one should bludgeon his little ass. Idgaf what his rating is or was he isn't an elite LW, period.

                      I've no interest in seeing Cryan Garcia, Kambosos or someone topping that win either. Be hard not to beat him in better fashion tbh
                      I agree 100% Jojo has always been a level or two below elite. He’s very basic and fights and thinks hes a power puncher but he has no power. I can’t even remember the last time he stopped someone. Tank, Teo and Garcia would stop Jojo in my opinion.

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