Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz Says Anthony Joshua Is Gunshy, Hesitant And Needs Confidence

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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz Says Anthony Joshua Is Gunshy, Hesitant And Needs Confidence

    Former heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua shockingly suffered his first professional loss to the hands of Andy Ruiz Jr. in June 2019. In that fight, he knocked down Ruiz in the third round only to get dropped twice later in the round himself. A clearly rattled Joshua never really recovered and was downed twice more in the seventh as the fight was stopped.
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  • Jack_sh*t
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    Really? Who would have thought...

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    • steeve steel
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      Ruiz who is stating the obvious., should concentrate on his own confidence; he was quite hesitant after he almost got knocked out by Arreola, and dIdn't seem all that gung ho for he rest of the fight for after he was dropped and rocked early...

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      • P to the J
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        To be frank, even a slim, highly mobile Ruiz wasn’t winning that rematch, despite what he says. Joshua has the natural attributes to beat someone like him without so much effort. Where he fell down in the first bout was his natural lack of boxing IQ and indecision about the sort of boxer he was. I saw him getting caught between steaming in when Ruiz wasn’t even hurt and trying to box on the back foot.


        Basically, you can’t complicate his boxing style. He’s a brawler, and asking him to shoulder roll, feint, control the ring, and all that ****, is pointless because, not being a natural, he’s lacking in the capacity to know at what point of a bout to employ such. He can’t even tie up properly, as you all saw in the rematch when Ruiz was clocking him during the clinch.

        Yeah, letting him loose to fight means he’ll always have a ceiling in boxing, and would certainly incur losses to proper boxers, but the lack of proper HW talent is ripe for a pre-Wlad type Joshua to steamroller most of this division and have a relatively successful career

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        • hugh grant
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          Well I doubt ruiz is first to ko Josh, certainly not first man to knock down Josh- so I'm sure Josh has always been realistic in idea he could be hurt at any point in a fight.
          But now Josh has stepped up in class fighting good fighters every fight, he has to be cautious the stakes are high so more pressure
          Last edited by hugh grant; 12-15-2021, 09:38 AM.

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          • deathofaclown
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            Originally posted by P to the J
            To be frank, even a slim, highly mobile Ruiz wasn’t winning that rematch, despite what he says. Joshua has the natural attributes to beat someone like him without so much effort. Where he fell down in the first bout was his natural lack of boxing IQ and indecision about the sort of boxer he was. I saw him getting caught between steaming in when Ruiz wasn’t even hurt and trying to box on the back foot.


            Basically, you can’t complicate his boxing style. He’s a brawler, and asking him to shoulder roll, feint, control the ring, and all that ****, is pointless because, not being a natural, he’s lacking in the capacity to know at what point of a bout to employ such. He can’t even tie up properly, as you all saw in the rematch when Ruiz was clocking him during the clinch.

            Yeah, letting him loose to fight means he’ll always have a ceiling in boxing, and would certainly incur losses to proper boxers, but the lack of proper HW talent is ripe for a pre-Wlad type Joshua to steamroller most of this division and have a relatively successful career
            I agree

            Sadly for AJ, he fancies himself as a master boxer and a skilled technician. He’s a bit too deluded in that regard, to the point his game plan was to outbox Usyk. I have no idea how he and his team thought it was even possible. There’s no point in over complicating things. I don’t think he can beat Usyk anyway and didn’t think so before the first fight, but I think it’s a bonus that he now knows to not box with him.

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            • Liondw
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              Ruiz is a very good fighter, but did do a disservice to the heavyweight titles by literally not training for the AJ rematch.

              I hope he saved most of that money he made from the Joshua fights.

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              • hitmanjosh
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                No matter what background or race you come from, you have to love Ruiz because he's honest and has talent rather it's wasted will be determined in the future but he's an awesome dude and I hope he get his sh_ttt together as well.

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                • thack
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                  The shape Ruiz turned up in for the first contest was disgraceful .For the second fight he was disrespectful to the sport of boxing and completely let himself and his team down. Joshua's confidence was shot after Ruiz brutalised him and then a cruiserweight easily handled him and very nearly stopped him. Joshua is still a decent fighter but no longer a top dog and at top level will have more losses than wins.

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                  • -Kev-
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                    “He won the rematch against me because I didn’t do my part. That’s the only reason,” said Ruiz. “If I had stuck to the game plan and did the same thing that I did in the first fight, trust me, I would have beat him. But I had to learn the hard way.”

                    Ruiz fought AJ the same exact way as the first fight. AJ was overconfident and looked over Ruiz in the first one. In the rematch AJ did not fight the same way. He outboxed Ruiz and did not trade with him at all.

                    Ruiz can say that if he fought AJ in the rematch the same way as he fought the first, that he would have won. But it goes both ways. If AJ fought Ruiz in the first fight like he did in the rematch, AJ could have won.

                    Ruiz can fight AJ a third time, fight him as he did in the first, come in lighter, stick to the gameplan and still not beat AJ again. That is because AJ won’t ever fight Ruiz the same way as the first. Ruiz will always fight the same.

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