Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz Says Anthony Joshua Is Gunshy, Hesitant And Needs Confidence

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  • P to the J
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    #11
    Originally posted by deathofaclown

    I agree

    Sadly for AJ, he fancies himself as a master boxer and a skilled technician. He’s a bit too deluded in that regard, to the point his game plan was to outbox Usyk. I have no idea how he and his team thought it was even possible. There’s no point in over complicating things. I don’t think he can beat Usyk anyway and didn’t think so before the first fight, but I think it’s a bonus that he now knows to not box with him.
    Yeah, for sure he does fancy himself as one, which is a shame because there is value in what he was pre-Wlad, although tbf, I was one of those saying that he needed to alter his game as far back as then.

    But, we, and hopefully now he, see that he hasn’t the brain for any such developments. So it’s a case of setting him free and hoping his power, combinations and athleticism get him through fights.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #12
      This is ****** the rematch wasn't close at all, AJ was on his way to a win in the first fight too he just got clipped and lost his equilibrium, look, it's boxing, it happens, but Ruiz is an idiot to pretend he's more skilled than AJ, this isn't like the Usyk fight where he got outboxed from the moment the bell rang

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      • OldTerry
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        #13
        Originally posted by P to the J
        To be frank, even a slim, highly mobile Ruiz wasn’t winning that rematch, despite what he says. Joshua has the natural attributes to beat someone like him without so much effort. Where he fell down in the first bout was his natural lack of boxing IQ and indecision about the sort of boxer he was. I saw him getting caught between steaming in when Ruiz wasn’t even hurt and trying to box on the back foot.


        Basically, you can’t complicate his boxing style. He’s a brawler, and asking him to shoulder roll, feint, control the ring, and all that ****, is pointless because, not being a natural, he’s lacking in the capacity to know at what point of a bout to employ such. He can’t even tie up properly, as you all saw in the rematch when Ruiz was clocking him during the clinch.

        Yeah, letting him loose to fight means he’ll always have a ceiling in boxing, and would certainly incur losses to proper boxers, but the lack of proper HW talent is ripe for a pre-Wlad type Joshua to steamroller most of this division and have a relatively successful career
        Agree with what you said about Ruiz. Ruiz is right though about Joshua now being gun shy and it is with good reason. AJ's fight against Usyk is evidence that he is relucent to fight in the same manner as he used to. Right now, his worst enemy is himself.
        Last edited by OldTerry; 12-15-2021, 12:57 PM.

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        • Marchegiano
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          #14
          Beat Andy's fat ass being all those things so how good is Ruiz?

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          • aaronbnb
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            #15
            Originally posted by P to the J
            To be frank, even a slim, highly mobile Ruiz wasn’t winning that rematch, despite what he says. Joshua has the natural attributes to beat someone like him without so much effort. Where he fell down in the first bout was his natural lack of boxing IQ and indecision about the sort of boxer he was. I saw him getting caught between steaming in when Ruiz wasn’t even hurt and trying to box on the back foot.


            Basically, you can’t complicate his boxing style. He’s a brawler, and asking him to shoulder roll, feint, control the ring, and all that ****, is pointless because, not being a natural, he’s lacking in the capacity to know at what point of a bout to employ such. He can’t even tie up properly, as you all saw in the rematch when Ruiz was clocking him during the clinch.

            Yeah, letting him loose to fight means he’ll always have a ceiling in boxing, and would certainly incur losses to proper boxers, but the lack of proper HW talent is ripe for a pre-Wlad type Joshua to steamroller most of this division and have a relatively successful career
            Ruiz would have won if he was more mobile. Anyone with a chin that throws is going to give Joshua trouble. Even Pulev had some moments where AJ looked really uncomfortable. Nonetheless, the way Joshua won that rematch was really disappointing. Hardly Rahman-Lewis II.
            Last edited by aaronbnb; 12-15-2021, 02:54 PM.

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            • NachoMan
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              #16
              Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
              This is ****** the rematch wasn't close at all, AJ was on his way to a win in the first fight too he just got clipped and lost his equilibrium, look, it's boxing, it happens, but Ruiz is an idiot to pretend he's more skilled than AJ, this isn't like the Usyk fight where he got outboxed from the moment the bell rang
              You make every excuse for AJ and give no respect to Ruiz Jr. AJ dropped Ruiz with a good shot in the 3rd, cracked him again immediately when he got up and then Andy, fresh as a daisy, commenced to beating that ass for the next four rds. He didn't get lucky and AJ was never dominating him. Even AJ's staunchest supporters, at this point, must see that their main remains flawed and highly vulnerable to getting outboxed and outpunched. He can lose to a lot of guys because he just plain is not a natural fighter. AJ is a fair bet to lose by KO every time out because his chin and stamina aren't great. If they ever do have that rubbermatch fight, bet on Ruiz.
              Last edited by NachoMan; 12-15-2021, 03:22 PM.

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              • topo5358
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                #17
                That's exactly what I saw against Usyk. Very unsure and tentative, even throwing the jab. It made Usyk's job a whole lot easier.

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                • deathofaclown
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by P to the J

                  Yeah, for sure he does fancy himself as one, which is a shame because there is value in what he was pre-Wlad, although tbf, I was one of those saying that he needed to alter his game as far back as then.

                  But, we, and hopefully now he, see that he hasn’t the brain for any such developments. So it’s a case of setting him free and hoping his power, combinations and athleticism get him through fights.
                  The problem is I’m not sure he has the confidence to do that anymore. Even after the Wlad fight I thought he become a little more hesitant and after the Ruiz fight obviously he did and now he’s just been beaten again and nearly taken out. I’m not sure he has the mentality to overcome that kind of thing, He seems to become increasingly a little bit more timid as time goes on. Even the Pulev fight he had him hurt early and let him back into the fight and be competitive until late in the fight, I think Joshua from the past would have finished him off there and then.

                  I just think it’s a mental thing with him and fighters like that don’t generally revert back. I don’t think he will.

                  Take someone like Dillian Whyte, I don’t think he’s as good a fighter but I think he could get knocked out like he has been knocked out and will come back just as game as ever. Some fighters just have that mentality.

                  But anyway when it’s all said and done, I think Joshua’s biggest problem in is next fight is Usyk is simply too good for him.
                  Last edited by deathofaclown; 12-15-2021, 03:53 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                    This is ****** the rematch wasn't close at all, AJ was on his way to a win in the first fight too he just got clipped and lost his equilibrium, look, it's boxing, it happens, but Ruiz is an idiot to pretend he's more skilled than AJ, this isn't like the Usyk fight where he got outboxed from the moment the bell rang
                    It’s like the Pulev fight never happened either before Usyk ? But he’s gun shy . These guys never learn to worry about their own careers ,Ruiz was in danger losing to Arreola at a far lighter weight .

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                    • SUBZER0ED
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                      #20
                      So, now Ruiz is an expert on what a boxer needs to do to be a champion? He failed at one of the basic fundamentals of boxing, GETTING IN SHAPE! Fat bastard was the unified HW champion of the world and screwed it up because he couldn't stop shoveling food down his gullet! And, his plan in the rematch vs Joshua was the same as the first, just go in and catch him. While AJ actually had and executed a plan to outbox Andy. Work on your own shit, fat boy.

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