Was Erik Morales in his prime when Manny Pacquiao stopped him twice?

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  • Ray*
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    #21
    The third fight he was gone totally gone, The first fight contribute to the end of Morales has an elite fighter, The way Raheem schooled him for 12 rounds just confirmed how far Morales had gone down by the time they both meet for the second time.

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      #22
      You can't be prime if Zahir Raheem gives you a boxing lesson...shame I kinda liked Raheem too...

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        #23
        Prime or not the Morales that fought Pac in all 3 fights was just fcukin classic. Even though he lost the 3rd fight, he still exchanged with Pac and fought toe-to-toe for the whole 3 rounds. He is an amazing guy, a gifted boxer. He is worthy of being in the hall of fame.

        There is no need to discredit Pac's wins. Pac had a hard time to make a name for himself coz nobody from the Philippines really made it to the USA and won consecutively before Pac. Pac made his name and he earned it the hard way. Look at boxing in the Philippines now, they got more champions in this decade than the Pancho Villa era.

        We all know Pac is not the best pure boxer in the planet but he's got the dedication for the sport and he loves training. We saw how he evolved from a one-dimensional puncher to the #1 P4P he is today.

        Past is past and he's got a fight this November. I'm not even a Pachugger but I just can't stand people saying all his wins are fraud.

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        • Ray*
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          #24
          What actually happen to Zahir Raheem??? Remember watching the fight and after the fight Arum was looking at Raheem with devilish eyes like what the F**k did you just did...

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          • KILLA RIGHT
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            #25
            Erik is my all time fav fighter i will never watch that raheem fight it was the end of him..the true erik was the first pac fight...just showed how much better a prime erik vs a overated pac was

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              #26
              Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
              I still dont get how people that know boxing are so full of **** with pac when he lost 2 fights to jmm,beat a past prime erik,hatton and oscar but then again his fans dont know **** about boxing ok sorry 99% of them...hahaha people thinks hes a top 20 fighter i dont get it

              You just discredited all his fights, what kinda lame biased **** is that

              Ill do the same with JMM.


              Chris John, LOST, legit. no matter how hard you cry it's a LOSS. LOST TWICE to Manny. Ref admitted ****ing up on score card on first fight, Manny OFFICIALLY won the 2nd, JMM cant say the same. Casamayor was old/past prime, at 37. Manny has never fought anyone above 37. Juan Diaz, overrated win, maybe a little better than D Diaz, which Manny destroyed. Juan made JMM buckle. Barrera was way past prime, at least Manny got a much younger and better version, without being KD'd.

              JMM doesnt even have any top legit wins he can claim. casamayor? hah

              see how easy that was? Youre dissing manny for his wins, I'm dissing JMM for his wins AND recent losses.
              Last edited by shogunn; 09-12-2009, 05:04 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
                Erik is my all time fav fighter i will never watch that raheem fight it was the end of him..the true erik was the first pac fight...just showed how much better a prime erik vs a overated pac was
                Saying Pac's overrated is being ignorant.

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                • kocface
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                  #28
                  u have to remember pacs right eye got headbutted n started bleedin and he still went out swinging, no butt, woulda been different story win or lose

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                  • kocface
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by shogunn
                    you just discredited all his fights, what kinda lame biased **** is that

                    ill do the same with jmm.


                    Chris john, lost, legit. No matter how hard you cry it's a loss. Lost twice to manny. Ref admitted ****ing up on score card on first fight, manny officially won the 2nd, jmm cant say the same. Casamayor was old/past prime, at 37. Manny has never fought anyone above 37. Juan diaz, overrated win, maybe a little better than d diaz, which manny destroyed. Juan made jmm buckle. Barrera was way past prime, at least manny got a much younger and better version, without being kd'd.

                    Jmm doesnt even have any top legit wins he can claim. Casamayor? Hah

                    see how easy that was? Youre dissing manny for his wins, i'm dissing jmm for his wins and recent losses.
                    lol owned!!!!

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                    • nycbgdogg
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                      #30
                      Even though Pac lost the first fight, I truly believe Pac ruined him in that fight... EM sustained a beating he never recieved before and never recovered from since that first Pac encounter...

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