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  • #61
    Originally posted by elegua View Post

    Kambosos will easily destroy Loma. Loma could not even finish a devastated Comey. Loma is more fanfare than facts. Look, with only 18 fights already 2 loses. Mention one boxing star with that record...C'mon!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by elegua View Post

      Teofimo won cuz simply powered Loma ass. No more excuses. What about when Loma defeated Rigo? Ah! cuz Rigo was 8 years older him and that day Loma was 20 pounds heavier. That's a real fact! But nobody considered that. So what? Loma has been inflated because the gangster of Bob Arum who controls ESPN. Loma will never get back any of those belts, period!!
      Bull****. Teofimo won because Loma, for some strange reason, decided it was a good idea to not throw punches for the first 7 rounds of that fight, allowing Lopez to win rounds on activity alone, even if he was punching gloves and air most of the time. When Loma finally remembered he was in a fight, he outclassed Teofimo but it was too late to win on points

      Teofimo won not because of the things he did, but because of the things Loma forgot to do. The fact he was deathly scared of a rematch proves that. It was a fluke win that shouldn't have happened

      The Rigo fight, It's not Loma's fault that Rigo's older, and he didn't use his size advantage to overpower Rigo but his boxing skills, so that's a moot point.

      He outboxed and schooled the Cuban to the point of making him quit like a ***** out of sheer frustration. But Loma, being the humble man he is, downplayed his own victory claiming Quitondeaux was too small.

      You must be a rabid fanboy of Stank Davis or one of the other cherrypicking divas in the division, to hate on Loma that much. Loma is what all fighters should be, a warrior always willing to fight the best opposition available

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      • #63
        Originally posted by lopetego View Post

        Bull****. Teofimo won because Loma, for some strange reason, decided it was a good idea to not throw punches for the first 7 rounds of that fight, allowing Lopez to win rounds on activity alone, even if he was punching gloves and air most of the time. When Loma finally remembered he was in a fight, he outclassed Teofimo but it was too late to win on points

        Teofimo won not because of the things he did, but because of the things Loma forgot to do. The fact he was deathly scared of a rematch proves that. It was a fluke win that shouldn't have happened

        The Rigo fight, It's not Loma's fault that Rigo's older, and he didn't use his size advantage to overpower Rigo but his boxing skills, so that's a moot point.

        He outboxed and schooled the Cuban to the point of making him quit like a ***** out of sheer frustration. But Loma, being the humble man he is, downplayed his own victory claiming Quitondeaux was too small.

        You must be a rabid fanboy of Stank Davis or one of the other cherrypicking divas in the division, to hate on Loma that much. Loma is what all fighters should be, a warrior always willing to fight the best opposition available
        Here we go, the myth of Loma "forgetting to fight" in the biggest fight of his career. He didn't fight in those rounds cus he felt the power of the bigger fighter and didn't want none.

        Same in the Rigo fight, in the other direction.



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        • #64
          I have to say that I agree with Loma though. Kambo is the fight to go for, and he does need it. Davis won't fight him and Haney beats him IMO.

          Edit: Hell, I think even Cruz is too much for him at lightweight
          Last edited by RA-Box; 12-13-2021, 03:10 AM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by RA-Box View Post

            Here we go, the myth of Loma "forgetting to fight" in the biggest fight of his career. He didn't fight in those rounds cus he felt the power of the bigger fighter and didn't want none.

            Same in the Rigo fight, in the other direction.


            He didn't fight those rounds for a lot of reasons. But if you remember, on a lot of people's cards, Loma won the second round because he landed the harder, cleaner punches. Then for some reason he didn't do anything until round seven. His own words were that he threw a punch, and he felt his shoulder pop. That caused him a lot of concern, and he wanted to try to save his shoulder because he didn't know what would happen if he used it too much. But Lopez was too good to fight without fulling utilizing his right arm, so he just went for broke because he knew he'd lose otherwise. You'll notice that there were several punches he couldn't throw. No overhands. No uppercuts. He had to settle for jabs, primarily. And he said even those hurt.

            Not to discredit Lopez because it was also Lopez's speed, boxing IQ and power that made the perfect storm for a late start, but it was also the fact that Loma hand't fought in 14 months, longer than Lopez, and that Loma's training camp was cut short so he barely got to spar, all due to his shoulder injury.

            That's really the reason or reasons for the late start.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by elegua View Post

              Kambosos will easily destroy Loma. Loma could not even finish a devastated Comey. Loma is more fanfare than facts. Look, with only 18 fights already 2 loses. Mention one boxing star with that record...C'mon!
              Only 18 fights... But 17 of them were title fights.

              Mention one boxing star with that record.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Blackstarr View Post

                Ridiculous comparison tbh. Oscar de la Hoya won his first belt at super featherweight and wasn’t a natural 154 pounder, just too old to cut weight, plus he was a 2-1 underdog in that fight so not sure where you got “way too big” from. It was seen as a surprise how well he did, one fight away from getting retired by Pacquiao.

                Drawing equivalence between Josh Taylor and GGG like the OP did is far more accurate - both undefeated and undisputed no.1 fighters in their natural weight class (which GGG was at the time). Asking Loma to fight Josh Taylor is exactly like asking Mayweather Mayweather to fight GGG, and nothing like his contest with OLDH where he was rightfully the favourite for a reason.
                Floyd won his 1st title @ Super Featherweight! Pacquiao won his 1st title @ Super Bantamweight! They both went on to fight @ Super Welterweight! Oscar, Cotto, Canelo, Margarito, all had significant weight advantages! If Loma wants to be in the same category, beating Taylor would make it happen!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post

                  moving up in weight is often overrated. look at what canelo is doing: fighting old kovalev at 175 but not beterbiev, makabu but not someone better, etc...most of the time these guys dont really go outside their comfort zones. floyd, canelo and pac turned pro very young and as they grew they covered more weight divisions than loma who turned pro late. its pretty obvious loma is maxed out at 135. loma moving up outside his comfort zone would be him movin up to fight a guy like postol or something, thats what canelo is doing, that what floyd did to fight old #7 ranked hoya or old cotto and drained canelo. these guys werent dominant forces like josh taylor is at his weight. beating postol would be solid but id rather he just stay in his division and fight the guys there. something canelo should have done at 160 or 175 but ended up at 168 where no one good was. something floyd should have done at 147 but did the whole retirement, politics thing
                  If it's so easy, then Loma should do it! I already pointed out to you last week, he should have JUMPED at the chance to fight "Old" Pacquiao @ 140! Sometimes you have to have a little faith, and some courage, and you can achieve the impossible!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
                    "I need this chance..." reeks of desperation. Do it the right way. You are not entitled to these bogus belts. Work your way up.

                    You were beaten more than convincingly by a green 22-year old kid a couple of fights ago. That kid was beaten by a nonentity in boxing in Kambosos. Now you are fighting his leftovers and still not beating them better than him. That shouldn't leapfrog you over others like the WBC did to Haney against Campbell, for you, thanks to Arum. Winning these meaningless belts from a D class boxer like Kambosos wouldn't enhance anything. I know Arum is scheming for you as I write this.

                    Order Arum to make you a fight against the best, the man in the division, Gervonta Davis.
                    D-class fighter? Bruh, put a bit of respect on his name, he's far from D-class and u know it, he beat teo fair and square and teo is no mug, u sound mega butthurt

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                      Using your measurement of greatness would make Manny is the best fighter ever and far better than Floyd.

                      But lets be honest, you don't believe that because we both know that moving up, in and of itself, doesn't mean shyt.

                      Fighters like Oscar, Floyd and Canelo all used their "cash cow, lotto ticket" to consistently hand picked bigger opponents with easy styles or at catch weights or just plan burnt out and ripe for the picking.

                      Lomachanko doesn't have that luxury, he doesn't draw the cash and nobody really wants to fight him at 135lbs and there in lay the difference. Oscar, Floyd and Canelo never moved up because there weren't already more difficult opponents at the weight they were in, they moved up for easier fights for $$$.

                      In context, Lomachanko is 33 and fighting at 135, his max weight. At 34 Floyd was a bigger guy that was barley able to make 147, 154 was his max weight. Canelo lost his ability to shrink down and if Canelo fights until he is 34 (which he won't) Canelo will be lucky to make 175lbs....his max weight.
                      Manny would've been, had he beaten Floyd, but he lost. Oscar didn't have to challenge B-Hop, but he did! Floyd didn't have to challenge Oscar and Cotto @ 154, and Canelo @ 152, but he did! Manny never had to go 147, but he did! Loma could've fought Pacquiao @ 140, but he did NOT! Loma is probably gonna be a HOF anyway, with 2 bad losses, but he could join the level of Oscar, Floyd, Pacquiao, and Canelo, if he beat Josh Taylor! A win over JT would be a much better legacy fight than Kambosos!

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