Comments Thread For: Vasiliy Lomachenko Drops, Rocks, Decisions Richard Commey

[Boxing Logic]

Let's see Loma vs Lopez next! As a true competitor, Loma will want to avenge that loss, and now that Lopez lost his belt, Loma is the biggest opportunity available to him for his next fight.

So if Loma wants to rematch Lopez, you better believe all he has to do is make a call.

[Boxing Logic]

We'll find out if Loma is the competitor he says he is based on whether he decides to give Teofimo a big fight off a loss in order to get back 1-1 vs Teofimo, or if this is the second loss of his career where he shows zero competitiveness about getting a rematch.

Also, is it true Loma went to the hospital after this fight? What supposedly is the story this time?

[Boxing Logic]

Lomachencko would school tank period....he’s already been exposed by Cruz and should have lost that fight.

a fit Lomachencko runs rings around anyone at 135 and he has another 2 years before he starts the downward slope

Tank looks so short and stubby. They call him Tank, but Loma looks way stronger than him now, and more powerful. The way you could hear his punches vs Commey and Nakatani "boom" on the audio, even the body shots (especially the body shots). The way his punches just smash when they hit these guys and snap their heads. If you imagine rocks thrown into a pond, Loma's punches create twice bigger ripples in the water when they land than Tank's do also, despite facing bigger better guys. I am just imagining what this 135 Loma's punches would look like landing on Isaac Cruz and Leo Santa Cruz, and it would be more explosive than Tank's. Like I said, even vs big 135 pounders, Nakatani and Commey, they still look bigger than Tank's. Loma looks bulked up to me. He might be reaching his "final form" at 135 and then hopefully we'll see the final final form at 140.

Loma looks like a 135 Canelo now, physique wise, but with ballet dancer legs. Tank looks skinny but also short and stubby armed, so often he looks uncoordinated and not graceful despite his quick reflexes. I consider his handspeed the same as Loma's. Sometimes Tank looks faster to me, sometimes Loma does. Tank looks stubby armed and less graceful looking, whereas Lomachenko combines the same quickness with more strength, size, and graceful form. Tank also looks like his brain is slow at processing so as far as just repeating set movements very quickly that he learned in the gym, "duck left duck right pull back," he does those things okay, but sort of at mechanical, pre-drilled sloppy angles that are sloppy because they're not being adjusted to his opponent's movements. But when it comes to actually processing on the fly and knowing the correct moves to make, and doing the correct movements instinctually based on spatial awareness and reading the situation in a split second, he has that deer in the headlights, slow processing issue similar to Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, Jermall Charlo, Nikolai Valuev I think might have had it either him or maybe Emmanuel Charr, one of the east euro giants, where they don't react when they're being punched at and they get hit like bobbleheads. Maybe Shannon Briggs was another. Maybe Margarito was another but it's hard to recall.

Tank really doesn't look like a top guy. And even his power doesn't look great. He knocked out Leo Santa Cruz with an uppercut, who is a 122 pounder. Lomachenko knocked out Martinez at 130. What's the difference? But in this fight vs Cruz, Tank is the one who looked like a 126 pounder. His arms and fists looked small, and he basically reminded me a lot of Gary Russell Jr, but not as fast, and Russell Jr processes faster than him. Tank also showed no power vs a chinny Gamboa until the 12th round. Tank reminds me a lot of Gamboa actually but not as smooth or strong or explosive. Tank is a poor man's Gamboa. If he could make 126 like Gamboa in his prime, then he might blitz through everyone despite his flaws, but at 130 and especially 135 he should do worse than Gamboa did in theory.

Tank was also appeared out on his feet vs Fonseca at 130 lbs so that's not a good sign for beating Loma at 135. Yes really. They even showed a slow motion replay of it between rounds on the Showtime telecast. And Fonseca is not good. Or powerful. So Tank may actually be the chinny one at 135, not Devin Haney. Tank also has the worst stamina of any top 10 guy at 135, and Loma is the most exhausting guy to fight in the sport. "Styles make fights" and that alone should assure a Loma stoppage win.

As for his power, the only time Tank looked powerful to me was at 140 vs Barrios, which just tells you how fixed boxing must be. By the same token, Mario Barrios already lost big Batyr Akmedov and got a gift. Go watch it if you don't know. And he took a beating (by WWE standards I mean) in that fight. Maybe he's damaged goods? Doesn't explain why he wasn't throwing hard punches at Tank though.

So if you actually analyze Tank's skills, his power, and his performances also, and compare them to Loma's, Loma is going to win every round and knock Tank out. But if you know the politics of the sport... let's just say I'm picking Tank to win if that fight happens. Loma already is on my "boxers I'm very su****ious of" list after forgetting a rematch clause vs Lopez and then performing that way. And his advisor is Egis Klimas, same adviser as Sergey Kovalev, and we all saw what happened vs Canelo. I don't trust any fights involving Usyk, Loma, or Kovalev now. So I would pick Tank to beat Loma.

[SteveM]

Old looking face is usually a sign of muscle tension

That's interesting. Seriously. Do you have a link or somewhere to read more?

[Liondw]

It's like Loma likes Commey too much before and during the fight to want to knock him out.

One slick boxer Loma, but he ain't no Mayweather or Pernell Whitaker level of slickness. They just give terms like matrix for clickbait, but he is an outstanding boxer.

[Rodtang]

Teo landed a lucky punch on Commey, then lost hist titles on his first defense. Loma gave Commey a boxing lesson.

Interesting how you mention Lopez, Commey fight. Then jump to his first defence, whilst skipping the Loma fight. lol.

[Rodtang]

My boy is the best in the division. The rest are the contenders. Loma proved tonight he ain't much in the scheme of things at lightweight. Maybe Arum can buy him another shot with the corrupt orgs.

As much as Davis is a massive talent, it cant be claimed he's the best in the division. He's fought Gamboa and Cruz. Neither impressive performances. Loma, Lopez, Haney, and Kambosos, all have bigger wins at 135. Even Garcia's win over Campbell is arguably better than Cruz. But I do welcome him trying to prove it and look forward to him in big fights with these guys. I'm not saying those guys are better either. We have a man who beat the man thing happening at the moment, with no clear dominator in the division. Ellerbe and Mayweather need to man up, so we can see if their guy becomes that dominator. I'm not confident they will though unfortunately.

[The plunger man]

Tank looks so short and stubby. They call him Tank, but Loma looks way stronger than him now, and more powerful. The way you could hear his punches vs Commey and Nakatani "boom" on the audio, even the body shots (especially the body shots). The way his punches just smash when they hit these guys and snap their heads. If you imagine rocks thrown into a pond, Loma's punches create twice bigger ripples in the water when they land than Tank's do also, despite facing bigger better guys. I am just imagining what this 135 Loma's punches would look like landing on Isaac Cruz and Leo Santa Cruz, and it would be more explosive than Tank's. Like I said, even vs big 135 pounders, Nakatani and Commey, they still look bigger than Tank's. Loma looks bulked up to me. He might be reaching his "final form" at 135 and then hopefully we'll see the final final form at 140.

Loma looks like a 135 Canelo now, physique wise, but with ballet dancer legs. Tank looks skinny but also short and stubby armed, so often he looks uncoordinated and not graceful despite his quick reflexes. I consider his handspeed the same as Loma's. Sometimes Tank looks faster to me, sometimes Loma does. Tank looks stubby armed and less graceful looking, whereas Lomachenko combines the same quickness with more strength, size, and graceful form. Tank also looks like his brain is slow at processing so as far as just repeating set movements very quickly that he learned in the gym, "duck left duck right pull back," he does those things okay, but sort of at mechanical, pre-drilled sloppy angles that are sloppy because they're not being adjusted to his opponent's movements. But when it comes to actually processing on the fly and knowing the correct moves to make, and doing the correct movements instinctually based on spatial awareness and reading the situation in a split second, he has that deer in the headlights, slow processing issue similar to Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, Jermall Charlo, Nikolai Valuev I think might have had it either him or maybe Emmanuel Charr, one of the east euro giants, where they don't react when they're being punched at and they get hit like bobbleheads. Maybe Shannon Briggs was another. Maybe Margarito was another but it's hard to recall.

Tank really doesn't look like a top guy. And even his power doesn't look great. He knocked out Leo Santa Cruz with an uppercut, who is a 122 pounder. Lomachenko knocked out Martinez at 130. What's the difference? But in this fight vs Cruz, Tank is the one who looked like a 126 pounder. His arms and fists looked small, and he basically reminded me a lot of Gary Russell Jr, but not as fast, and Russell Jr processes faster than him. Tank also showed no power vs a chinny Gamboa until the 12th round. Tank reminds me a lot of Gamboa actually but not as smooth or strong or explosive. Tank is a poor man's Gamboa. If he could make 126 like Gamboa in his prime, then he might blitz through everyone despite his flaws, but at 130 and especially 135 he should do worse than Gamboa did in theory.

Tank was also appeared out on his feet vs Fonseca at 130 lbs so that's not a good sign for beating Loma at 135. Yes really. They even showed a slow motion replay of it between rounds on the Showtime telecast. And Fonseca is not good. Or powerful. So Tank may actually be the chinny one at 135, not Devin Haney. Tank also has the worst stamina of any top 10 guy at 135, and Loma is the most exhausting guy to fight in the sport. "Styles make fights" and that alone should assure a Loma stoppage win.

As for his power, the only time Tank looked powerful to me was at 140 vs Barrios, which just tells you how fixed boxing must be. By the same token, Mario Barrios already lost big Batyr Akmedov and got a gift. Go watch it if you don't know. And he took a beating (by WWE standards I mean) in that fight. Maybe he's damaged goods? Doesn't explain why he wasn't throwing hard punches at Tank though.

So if you actually analyze Tank's skills, his power, and his performances also, and compare them to Loma's, Loma is going to win every round and knock Tank out. But if you know the politics of the sport... let's just say I'm picking Tank to win if that fight happens. Loma already is on my "boxers I'm very su****ious of" list after forgetting a rematch clause vs Lopez and then performing that way. And his advisor is Egis Klimas, same adviser as Sergey Kovalev, and we all saw what happened vs Canelo. I don't trust any fights involving Usyk, Loma, or Kovalev now. So I would pick Tank to beat Loma.

what a load of waffle for a Sunday morning.....loma was avoided by tank for a reason and tank knows this......he got exposed by Cruz last week who basically is a come forward quite slow footed slugger.

a fit loma schools them all

[Boxing Logic]

what a load of waffle for a Sunday morning.....loma was avoided by tank for a reason and tank knows this......he got exposed by Cruz last week who basically is a come forward quite slow footed slugger.

a fit loma schools them all

Clearly you did not read my post at all, just the bolded part at the bottom. I don't know why. People are here to read and discuss boxing opinions. Is scrolling through ten pages of people trolling more interesting than reading someone's in depth opinion? I basically wrote a quarter boxing article for people to read, but for free. I think if you read it, you will agree with basically everything I wrote. The bolded part at the bottom is not at all what it seems to be if you don't read what comes before it. I said based on talent and performances, Loma should knock out Tank, but because of the way that the sport is, and because of the strange things that happened with Loma vs Teofimo and even another Egis Klimas boxer (Sergey Kovalev) against Canelo, I will pick Tank to win. I'm basically saying it will be fixed. But in a real fight, I said Lomachenko is the clear pick.

[Boxing Logic]

Did Lanc report that Loma was taken to the hospital after the show? Why?