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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #11
    Originally posted by factsarenice

    Arum doesn't give a shyt about Loma or Shakur and he certainly doesn't want to continue paying either of them. Bob is about money, Bobs money, and that's it. Crawford got out and Shakur has better advisors so he'll leave at some point. Lomachanko has a bigger problem than just his English or Shakur, he has a massive problem understanding a man who cheats and tricks people by gaining their trust and persuading them to believe something that is not true. Arum is the truest of the American grifter, he hates Trump and yet he's a clone, a reproduction carbon-copy conman.
    Crawford damn near fought his whole prime career under TR.. he didn't have to keep resigning those contracts but yeah blame Arum for it lol.

    Fact of the matter is Top Rank is and has been the #1 Promotional company in boxing and probably will be after Arum passes.

    Facts are facts

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    • hitmanjosh
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      You make a valid point but if anyone has the opinion Haney’s attributes and style could make for a difficult fight for Loma or that Tank might beat him, one of his pro white fans claims that is only because the poster is black, a racist, or hates white boxers.

      Make sure you remember to take issue with those posters as well.
      I can only take issue with things I read and see that don't make sense, particulally when a race has nothing to do with talent and ability of one fighter vs another. I root for any fighter I find to be a great superior talent whom also has the character of a champion.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #13
        Originally posted by hitmanjosh

        I can only take issue with things I read and see that don't make sense, particulally when a race has nothing to do with talent and ability of one fighter vs another. I root for any fighter I find to be a great superior talent whom also has the character of a champion.
        This reads-when I see it and it isn’t against Loma or someone I root for I will turn a blind eye to it, pretend I didn’t see it, or pretend it isn’t racist.

        Talent is definitely there. Character of a champion? When does a champion give away a belt then gives interviews where he says he wants all the belts?

        That is not champion character no matter who it is.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-11-2021, 11:28 AM.

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        • KillaMane26
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          #14
          Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

          Crawford damn near fought his whole prime career under TR.. he didn't have to keep resigning those contracts but yeah blame Arum for it lol.

          Fact of the matter is Top Rank is and has been the #1 Promotional company in boxing and probably will be after Arum passes.

          Facts are facts
          Yeah Top Rank is great for the first half of your career but not in the latter stage, Arum can't even secure fights between guys under the same umbrella, if you care about your legacy, Top Rank ain't the place to stay it seems

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          • Dean_Razorback
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            #15
            stevenson-loma would look just like loma vs rigo

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            • Jsmooth9876
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              #16
              Originally posted by KillaMane26

              Yeah Top Rank is great for the first half of your career but not in the latter stage, Arum can't even secure fights between guys under the same umbrella, if you care about your legacy, Top Rank ain't the place to stay it seems
              I agree for guys who reach the superstar level of a Oscar,
              Floyd and now Crawford, they are better off moving on and being free to work with anyone they choose.

              I just get a laugh out of people who blame Arum when guys like Bradley or Crawford make the decision to resign contracts to TR. At some point the blame lies with them and not TR.

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              • KillaMane26
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                #17
                Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

                I agree for guys who reach the superstar level of a Oscar,
                Floyd and now Crawford, they are better off moving on and being free to work with anyone they choose.

                I just get a laugh out of people who blame Arum when guys like Bradley or Crawford make the decision to resign contracts to TR. At some point the blame lies with them and not TR.
                Pretty much, their team chose to pick that guaranteed money over fight options they knew Arum couldn't secure.

                Bradley admitted this then turn around disregarded it when it came to Crawford. Another instance where money influenced things.

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                • Tankdestroyer
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Jbarr126
                  Typical loma scared to get schooled bye the great skillfull athletic shakur , just like valdez is scared to get whupped like all the blk fighters beat up on the mexican fighters with no problemo
                  And i stay constantly getting banned and labeled a racist for saying much less than this, go figure. On the real tho, i can tell you only know a limited amount of boxing by your comment. I can say this because I'm not even Mexican and can tell you if it wasn't for PBC carefully matchmaking fights or FIXING some scorecards there would be a LOT LESS "blk" champions around, that's a fact! I bet when things in life don't go your way you pull out the old fashioned: "It's because I'm Blk" race card.

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                  • Jsmooth9876
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by KillaMane26

                    Pretty much, their team chose to pick that guaranteed money over fight options they knew Arum couldn't secure.

                    Bradley admitted this then turn around disregarded it when it came to Crawford. Another instance where money influenced things.
                    No doubt. I don't blame either one of them either, they both were making millions guaranteed every fight regardless of opponent

                    Bradley got lucky cause he had Pac so he got to fight 3 super fights , Crawford just never had the opportunity and he knew that he wouldn't before he signed his last deal. If he jumped over to PBC at that point he would have probably Thurman Porter or Danny G and maybe even Spence by.now even though I think we'd still be waiting on that 1

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                    • KillaMane26
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

                      No doubt. I don't blame either one of them either, they both were making millions guaranteed every fight regardless of opponent

                      Bradley got lucky cause he had Pac so he got to fight 3 super fights , Crawford just never had the opportunity and he knew that he wouldn't before he signed his last deal. If he jumped over to PBC at that point he would have probably Thurman Porter or Danny G and maybe even Spence by.now even though I think we'd still be waiting on that 1
                      Yeah, How you gonna fuss about not getting fights across the street when your promoter couldn't even secure a inhouse fight for you

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