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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    Salud! Much respect to Miguel Cotto! Should've never accepted that catch-weight for Pacquiao! Oh well, hindsight is 20/20!

    Cotto's pride prevented Pac rematch
    October 5, 2012

    Of the three potential opponents Pacquiao was presented with by Top Rank's Bob Arum for a Dec. 8 HBO PPV fight, Cotto was the one preferred by Pacquiao -- rather than a fourth fight with Juan Manuel Marquez or a rematch with Timothy Bradley Jr.

    But Cotto, a promotional free agent who had spent his entire career with Top Rank (aside from his May fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.) had other ideas. Sure, Cotto was open to facing Pacquiao again -- and when has Cotto ever ducked a tough opponent? -- but he is also a proud man.

    Feeling disrespected, Cotto refused to take a deal that wasn't to his liking and rejected Arum's offer. Instead, he decided to work again with Golden Boy, which put on the Mayweather fight, and accepted a fight with junior middleweight titlist Austin Trout for far less money.

    They will meet Dec. 1 (Showtime) at New York's Madison Square Garden -- Cotto's home away from home -- which always rocks with his Puerto Rican fans when he fights there. It will be Cotto's eighth fight at the Garden, where his record is perfect (8-0, 4 KOs).

    Why would Cotto pick Trout (25-0, 14 KOs), a good fighter with a belt but a virtual unknown, over Pacquiao, the global star? What gives?

    Money and weight is what gives.

    For the 2009 fight, Cotto's deal with Top Rank called for a guaranteed $6.5 million purse, plus a share of the pay-per-view profits. During the Sergio Martinez-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. promotion last month, Arum told boxing reporters that he offered Cotto $13 million for the Pacquiao rematch and estimated that with strong pay-per-view sales Cotto could earn another $2 million from his share of the profits.

    Arum said that when Cotto turned it down, he and Pacquiao went with Marquez for Pacquiao's next fight, just one week after Cotto's.

    Cotto vigorously disputed Arum's claim.

    "The only offer Top Rank ever made us was the same money as in 2009," Cotto told ESPN.com. "[Arum] made the same offer he made in 2009, and we found it kind of funny. That was the reason we decided not to face Pacquiao. That, and they also wanted me to go down to 150 pounds and give him the same advantage that they gave Pacquiao in 2009, a catchweight."

    Cotto said he was surprised to read that Arum said he offered him $13 million.

    "Bob said he offered us $13 million, but he never came to us with that offer," Cotto said. "He always offered us the same guarantee he offered us in 2009, with the same benefits, and that's not fair. He offered the exact same amount of money. Of course it's a business, but all we want is fair business. You can say to Bob to tell me he made that offer to me to my face, and you will see his reaction.

    "Miguel Cotto always agrees to fight the best. I've never said no to anybody, but you need to treat me fairly in business."

    https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...rematch-boxing

    Enjoy retirement, and cong**** on the HOF! Please send my love to the wife! No disrespect but DAMN! Champ, you're a very lucky man!

    Nah this is the real reason why Cotto never rematched Pacquiao. Cotto knew pacquiao was dirty https://********/BlfhJdW_ZsE
    minute 30:50 , this ain’t about ego
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    • #32
      Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post

      Because Pac probably used steroids, along with Floyd,GGG,Canelo,Fury,Joshua,Roy Jones,Holyfield,Hagler,Toney,Chavez,DLH,Leonard,Lo machenko,Tyson,Lewis,Klitchko's,..

      Basically most the top fighters in the past 30-40 years have been on some performance enhancing drugs and before that there was other type of cheating going on,fighters taking drugs to take pain and have better stamina, Loaded Gloves, poisoning fighters before fights(that's the reason the water bottles were full of tape with a signature on them), substance to blind fighters in ring. The list goes on..

      Anytime there is so much money/fame/recognition at stake human's will do almost anything to keep winning and competing.



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      They weren't even testing for Opioids in 1979, Mike Ayala shot up the day of the fight.
      So pac moved up 8 whole weight classes and you still think he “probably” used steroids?? Hahahahahahah don’t be gullible kid, Superman doesn’t exist in real life

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
        Yeah, Cotto deserves it. I don't think HOF is based purely off accomplishments but what you gave to the sport you partake in. Sure, he lost some of his high profile matches, but regardless, he gave crazy entertainment in every fight that he participated in. Like, when you get hyped up for every time a particular fighter is about to fight, you know there is something special.

        Similar to Gatti. Gatti didn't win his major profile fights, but the entertainment he provided which he gave to the boxing community will live on forever. Why on earth wouldn't he be part of the Hall of Fame? Fame, that is what it is about. It is about becoming famous and what you did to get there. Even if you took losses, the manner in which you carried yourself and gave to the sport is what should be considered.

        I can't think of a better fighter that deserves to be in the HOF in comparison to Cotto's donations to the sport.
        He already came out saying why he lost to pacquiao, he knows pacquiao cheated https://********/BlfhJdW_ZsE
        minute 30:50

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mexiFistology View Post

          Still impressive? Lol nah don’t be a fanboy. Anybody could accomplish that with peds
          That’s bs lets be honest lol not saying it’s right taking peds but “anybody could do what pacquaio accomplished with peds” goofy **** to say. Can be the strongest dude going with the best stamina if you have 0 boxing skills you’re still getting your head jabbed off.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by tritium_arma View Post

            Let me guess you think Canelo’s 147-cruiserweight jump is natural doe. No mexican beef involved.
            Considering that Canelo gets drug tested for every fight and manny refused drug testing in his peak years lol but at least you admit pacquiao was dirty, that’s all that matters, lets not deviate from the subject

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            • #36
              Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
              Miguel Cotto is a legend who was cheated by the sport, first Margarito, then pac with the catchweight, then canelo showing up looking like a massive bodybuilder on tons of PEDs
              He knows pacquiao cheated with peds , it wasn’t the catchweight of why he lost https://********/BlfhJdW_ZsE
              minute 30:50

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Kzbox View Post

                That’s bs lets be honest lol not saying it’s right taking peds but “anybody could do what pacquaio accomplished with peds” goofy **** to say. Can be the strongest dude going with the best stamina if you have 0 boxing skills you’re still getting your head jabbed off.
                Nope , paulie malignaggi said it best. “ This is an endurance sport, you got complete bums who literally drown their opponents with punch output even tho their opponent is way better skillswise”. But let me guess, you probably know more about boxing than Paulie Malignaggi huh rofl . You’re a casual
                Last edited by mexiFistology; 12-10-2021, 04:45 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mexiFistology View Post

                  Nope , paulie malignaggi said it best. “ This is an endurance sport, you hot complete bums who literally driwn their opponents with punch output even tho their opponent is way better skillswise”. But let me guess, you probably know more about boxing than Paulie Malignaggi huh rofl . You’re a casual
                  You’re an idiot taking malignaggis word as gospel gtfoh, a lot of fighters in the sport are on peds and have come nowhere near Mannys accomplishments it doesn’t work like that you fool. You need boxing skills too it’s a mix of the both if anything but to say anybody could do the same on peds is just idiotic.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mexiFistology View Post
                    So pac moved up 8 whole weight classes and you still think he “probably” used steroids?? Hahahahahahah don’t be gullible kid, Superman doesn’t exist in real life
                    He never got busted so it can never be a 100% absolute, he likely took them like all top boxers are probably on something.

                    Only the fighters like:

                    Roy Jones
                    Mosley
                    Fury
                    Vargas
                    Holyfield
                    V. Klitschko
                    Toney

                    can you definitely say were on steroids.

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                    • #40
                      Cong**** Miguel Cotto!

                      He is definitely one of my favorite fighters to follow. Very tough individual. You have to honestly think how much of Cottos prime was taken from Margs loaded gloves (imo).

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