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  • #21
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
    As a Loma fan, these are the only opponents I think mean anything to his legacy to beat, and if he doesn't beat 3 of them for every 1 that he loses to, I will consider his career as not having lived up to the hype at all. Really, the way he was hyped, he should be beating every single one of them without losing a single time, but I realize that would be bad for the business of boxing, and boxing is foremost a business, so maybe 3-to-1 ratio of wins-to-losses vs these guys is more equitable, altruistic, and philanthropic:

    J-Tay at 140, T-Lo at 135 or 140, T-Dav at any weight, Stevens at any weight, T-Craw at 147.

    And a few lesser options but still OK: D-Han at 135, 140, or 147, R-Garci at 135, 140, or 147, Inoue at 126, R-Progr at 140 or 147.

    Kambosos is fine for a tuneup fight to get the belts back, but Loma needs to get the win back vs Teofimo more than he needs belts. Belts mean nothing in boxing now. Another good tuneup is J-Ramir at 140 but it's not the same as beating J-Tay up there or even R-Prog.

    Opponents that mean nothing for Loma:

    Richard Commey
    G-Kamb
    O-Valde
    And it goes without saying so I dont even want to mention the name, but anyone who got knocked out by O-Valde at 130 is not a meaningful opponent for Loma at all.

    This is what's so screwed up about the sport is that I wasn't even picky. I didnt just say he has to fight this one guy. I gave top level credit for as many as five different names, and I even gave some credit for four more after that. So that means there are nine opponents Loma could fight over the next three years where he could improve his legacy at least a little bit in every single fight. And yet guess what? We may see none of those fights, or at most they will probably make two of them over the next three years. That's how much of a joke boxing is, that people pretend guys like Loma are legacy fighters, but they barely ever fight legacy fights! All talk no action! And you can bet even if they do make two, they won't both be the fights you want to see, just maybe 5th on the list or something like that.
    Bud at 147???????? He's a double olympic gold medalist not fucking Superman. YDKSAB!!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Satir View Post

      so by your boxing logic the only opponent for Crawford that means anything to his legacy would be to beat Golovkin
      Loma's already fighting bigger guys - taller, rangier and heavier and he doesnt put any weight restrictions and rehydration clauses like some redhaired dude, who else does that beside Loma
      well that would be easier as Golovin is about to turn 40 and looking shopworn whereas Bud is NOT. Bud's movement would trouble Golovkin even when he was in his prime.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by darius45 View Post

        I think Loma fighting Crawford is more realistic than Crawford fighting GGG... I think Loma could hang with Crawford in the ring... I just don't think Loma has the power to keep Crawford honest... Rigondeaux went up in weight to fight Loma and was able to hang with Loma...

        Davis moving up to 147 to fight Crawford might actually be the more realistic option for a superfight...
        stop talking nonsense, another poster who DKSAB - they're all crawling out of the wood work today.
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        • #24
          This is going to be such a one sided fight, Commey is too slow to do anything. At least Loma isn't sitting around doing nothing that's a plus I guess
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          • #25
            People who talking about Loma need to fight Crawford or Taylor at 147 are rettards. Loma is midget and super small at 135. Crazy shhhit
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            • #26
              Originally posted by El-Malo- View Post
              . At least Loma isn't sitting around doing nothing that's a plus I guess
              Yes, maybe the fighters up at 160/168/175 who are doing nothing or fighting low level guys whilst waiting for a shot at canelo should start doing what Loma is and eliminate the opposition.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Boro View Post

                WTF are you talking about fight Taylor. He ain't no Manny Pacquiao, he's clearly found wanting at 35 they're to big for him and so will be a 5'10/11 taylor who's out growing 40.

                Loma has arguably one loss because Salido should've been disqualified and it's seeming more believable by the day he was injured in the Lopez fight.
                He shouldn't be removed from the p4p equation because of that at least he's willing to fight real guys unlike some in the division.
                Well that's your opinion, but before Teofimo beat him up, he was being talked about as "the best talent since Floyd Mayweather!" By the way, do you give Teofimo the same pass for being injured vs. Kambosos?

                Doctor says Teofimo Lopez is 'lucky he's not dead' after boxer found to have fought with air in chest

                Teofimo Lopez was risking his life and should have been in a hospital -- rather than a boxing ring -- when he lost his four lightweight belts to George Kambosos last week at Madison Square Garden, according to a doctor who subsequently examined him and reviewed his medical records.

                "He could have died, for sure," Dr. Linda Dahl, an otolaryngologist (ENT) with surgical privileges at three Manhattan hospitals, told ESPN. "How he breathed, I can't even explain to you. It's like somebody tied a 300-pound set of weights around his chest ... like his neck and chest were in a vise.

                "That's how he fought."

                "He's lucky he's not dead," Dr. Peter Constantino, executive director of the New York Head and Neck Institute, told ESPN. "I mean, really lucky."

                According to Lopez's medical records, the 24-year-old former undisputed champion was diagnosed with "pneumomediastinum" with "extensive air in the retropharyngeal space" by emergency room doctors during his postfight visit to Bellevue Hospital.

                "The air was surrounding his chest wall and his heart and his neck -- places where air is not supposed to be," said Dahl, who worked as a ringside physician for the New York State Athletic Commission. "If he was hit in the neck or the chest -- a certain way, in a certain place -- he could have developed a pneumothorax [collapsed lung]. ... He would have instantly been down and unable to breathe and needing a chest tube."

                https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ught-air-chest

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                • #28
                  People saying Loma should move up & fight Taylor then Bud... Smh. Loma is 5'7" and a natural featherweight.
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                  • #29
                    Commey is a REAL THREAT. I don't get why every one dismisses his chances. He is more hard hitting thanNakatani and more powerful and stronger. Commey can KO Loma whereas Naka could not.

                    Also, or is s fight for Loma. All risk, no reward. He could fight Haney instead 2 rings am may but he is dumb as Fk in terms of boxing business and his manager is a Pssy, they all let Arum do what he wants.
                    Last edited by Ajvar; 12-08-2021, 07:10 AM.
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                      Well that's your opinion, but before Teofimo beat him up, he was being talked about as "the best talent since Floyd Mayweather!" By the way, do you give Teofimo the same pass for being injured vs. Kambosos?

                      Doctor says Teofimo Lopez is 'lucky he's not dead' after boxer found to have fought with air in chest

                      Teofimo Lopez was risking his life and should have been in a hospital -- rather than a boxing ring -- when he lost his four lightweight belts to George Kambosos last week at Madison Square Garden, according to a doctor who subsequently examined him and reviewed his medical records.

                      "He could have died, for sure," Dr. Linda Dahl, an otolaryngologist (ENT) with surgical privileges at three Manhattan hospitals, told ESPN. "How he breathed, I can't even explain to you. It's like somebody tied a 300-pound set of weights around his chest ... like his neck and chest were in a vise.

                      "That's how he fought."

                      "He's lucky he's not dead," Dr. Peter Constantino, executive director of the New York Head and Neck Institute, told ESPN. "I mean, really lucky."

                      According to Lopez's medical records, the 24-year-old former undisputed champion was diagnosed with "pneumomediastinum" with "extensive air in the retropharyngeal space" by emergency room doctors during his postfight visit to Bellevue Hospital.

                      "The air was surrounding his chest wall and his heart and his neck -- places where air is not supposed to be," said Dahl, who worked as a ringside physician for the New York State Athletic Commission. "If he was hit in the neck or the chest -- a certain way, in a certain place -- he could have developed a pneumothorax [collapsed lung]. ... He would have instantly been down and unable to breathe and needing a chest tube."

                      https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ught-air-chest
                      A doctor exaggerating when they get paid who'd thought? whilst of course it can be life threatening generally it's just something that get over on your own the doctor in question isn't even a specialist in lung related diseases (pulmonologist) so his opinion is questionable to say the least when it comes to issues relating to breathing and such.

                      And the dramatization about the collapsed lung is hilarious, just like with the aforementioned a collapsed lung can heal it's self as an asthmatic myself I've had to deal with some of this ish myself... so either he's being a drama queen or the "specialist" (lol) is, or he's looking for excuses either way it's laughable.
                      Last edited by Boro; 12-08-2021, 11:18 AM.

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