Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury-Dillian Whyte: WBC Orders Open Negotiating Period For Heavyweight Title Fight

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  • Boro
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    #71
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

    This regressed version of Fury in my opinion? May find himself in another chaotic fight.

    Nobody really knows for sure how Fury will do against these other top heavyweights. His fights vs Wilder may have acted as some sort of smoke screen.

    Completely agree, people have become too impressed with the fact he's seems to have shown some pop lately but he's become slower, he's using less feints and over all he's looked defensively much worse. There was points in this 3rd fight like when he got dropped he was just walking forward with his earmuffs on like Christ. If he keeps moving forward with this "new style" I see a good few heavyweights beating him quite frankly, Wilder being as limited as he is just covered his flaws...
    Last edited by Boro; 12-07-2021, 07:11 PM.

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    • kafkod
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      #72
      Originally posted by greeneye99

      Bro
      You're posting about Fury's drawing power in the UK
      *Without any evidence to back it up
      Lol
      If you want to be silly about it, there's no evidence that AJ can draw flies to a picnic with 2 losses and no world titles.

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      • greeneye99
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        #73
        Originally posted by kafkod

        None of that makes any sense. Fury is the WBC champion and recognised by almost everyone as the No 1 HW in the world. He is as well known as AJ in the UK now and the majority of casual fans, plus practically all hardcore fans, believe he beats AJ if they fight. Most boxing fans in the UK would much prefer AJ to step aside from a rematch with Usyk and allow Fury to fight Usyk instead.

        Yes, AJ vs Usyk 2 would sell tickets in the UK, but Fury vs Usyk is the fight that everyone except Eddie Hearn would prefer to see next. That is a better way to judge the relative drawing power of Fury and AJ right now than pulling up PPV numbers from 6 years ago or talking about Fury vs Seferi in 2018.
        This is all *Your opinion*
        Until Fury actually fights in the UK
        You cannot say he has as much drawing power as AJ or fills out any arena because he hasn't done it before..
        But AJ has

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          #74
          Originally posted by kafkod

          If you want to be silly about it, there's no evidence that AJ can draw flies to a picnic with 2 losses and no world titles.
          2 losses makes a difference?
          Lol
          Just your Opinion again
          FYI
          AJ had one loss and still fought Usyk in a full house
          Tyson Fury Never ever packed an Arena in the UK

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          • Jkp
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            #75
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            I predict Whyte will reject the fight and cry over the purse split.
            I think your right. He wouldn't fight AJ for 3 world titles, he's not fighting a much more difficult fury for 1.

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            • The plunger man
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              #76
              Fury will do all he can to not fight whyte.......he is living of 3 wins against a donkey who has as much skill as Eddie the eagle edwards

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              • Jkp
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                #77
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                Whyte is carrying the fight over in the U.K he sells over there ,Fury as far as we’ve seen never did . Fury demands of 80% is a duck if he still persues that stance . The promotion knows it needs Whyte badly to stage this fight if it doesn’t want to once again lose money on Fury .
                Whyte only sold some tickets because people want to see the loud mouth peds cheat flattened. They can watch that on YouTube now vs aj or Povetkin. So no need to pay for it.

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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Boro


                  Completely agree, people have become too impressed with the fact he's seems to have shown some pop lately but he's become slower, he's using less feints and over all he's looked defensively much worse. There was points in this 3rd fight like when he got dropped he was just walking forward with his earmuffs on like Christ. If he keeps moving forward with this "new style" I see a good few heavyweights beating him quite frankly, Wilder being as limited as he is just covered his flaws...
                  Yes, you will notice people on here say things like 'Fury only fought that way to beat Wilder'.

                  But as far back as Ottin Wallin, Fury was starting to struggle in fights he would of found easier under Peter Fury. Tyson Fury was weighing in at 254 pounds vs Ottin Wallin, and still his movement and other aspects of his defense was not really impressive 'Wallin busted him up real good'.

                  Fighters go into fights against Tyson Fury these days, knowing that they can get to him. This is a entirely different perception and aura that used to surround him, during the aftermath of his Wladimir Kiltschko win.

                  I just think from this point on wards, all of his fights against these other top heavyweights will be chaotic. If Deontay Wilder a fighter who is game and aggressive, but lacks sophistication in his attacks 'If that type of fighter can land on Fury repeatably, then these other top guys will at-least get to Tyson Fury'.

                  During that third Wilder fight, just imagine if Wilder had more punches in his offensive arsenal. Imagine if he had a short thunderous uppercut on the inside like Mike Tyson, imagine if he had the over hand right of Lennox Lewis, or inside fighting capability of Rid**** Bowe & Evander Holyfield. Both Fury & Wilder produced a war, they both showed incredibly inner constitution but technically? If I am 100%, it was a clumsy messy fight 'I would not really rate the technical action as all time elite'.

                  Evander Holyfield vs Rid**** Bowe I,II & III were all fights which produced a higher level of action in my opinion. I even think Kiltschko vs Joshua was still a better fight in terms of the level of action.

                  Tyson Fury may still be the number 1 heavyweight, I just think these other top fighters are a lot closer to him 'In terms of skill and ability'.

                  Kronk Fury is not peak Fury, Kronk Fury is like Muhammad Ali during the 1970's 'Fury has re-adapted his training and approach to stay competitive'.















                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-07-2021, 08:31 PM.

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by kafkod

                    If you want to be silly about it, there's no evidence that AJ can draw flies to a picnic with 2 losses and no world titles.
                    untill fury beats someone who has decent boxing skill he will remain a question mark....beating wilder who is useless is not a given right to then decide who and when you fight.
                    joshua like fury had a rematch clause tied with in with wilder....also deserves his chance to win his titles back against usyk.

                    fury like all champions has to defend his belt against his mandatory end of

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                    • Murray Kelm
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                      #80
                      To the casuals it's all about perception, AJ is always going to get a pass because of his look the same way casuals are going to be critical of Fury because of his.

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