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Maybe fight Helenius.
Every fighter at top level, creates their own path. You have to create your own path, and destination.
Hrgovic has not really created his own path. He is just swirling about.
Chisora, Joyce, Parker, are not going to face him because they have a clear path already set out for them.
But somebody like Helenius is coming off a big win, and maybe wants another big win 'May well face him'.
If Hrgovic can beat Helenius that will be his best win 'Apart from that, I have no idea who he has been fighting of late'.
All I see with Hrgovic is a big solid fighter, nothing really stands out about him. He seemed in better condition, around the time when he was sparring with David Haye. Sparring David Haye is probably the best action he has ever produced.
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Originally posted by Jkp View Post
Whyte already turned down aj, in the biggest duck in history for 3 world titles.
which names is whyte be focusing on? Because he just ducked Wallin, and won't be getting a shot at wbc anytime soon, due to his current court case.
You can think those guys beat Wilder, but we all know usyk and fit ruiz beat AJ , because it has already happened.
As for whyte anyone in top 10 beats him. Anyone in top 20 is 50/50 fight. We know this a he's been beat several times
what is your problem? you're obsessed with just hating on the matchroom guys.
for the record, i totally get where Whyte was coming from. He was a mandatory to AJ but was pushing for the mandatory for Wilder. Im sure even whyte knew he'd get battered by AJ, esp the unbeaten AJ back then..and he's already lost to AJ. Furthermore the AJ fight is a certainty for the future because AJ has said 'id like to fight whyte again'.
More importantly we all know that the stance from guys like Whyte was that Wilder had been fighting bums and would lose as soon as he had a proper step up fight vs someone proven. Look at the things Whyte said he wanted to do, those are the very things Fury later did. obv we know there's a big question mark on Whyte's chin and it's highly likely Whyte would have been put to sleep whereas Fury gets back up. However, no doubt had whyte been able to connect just once, he'd have put wilder down the same way. Eitherway...it's more about Whyte targetting Wilder and seeing him as the easier option aswell as doubling his chances of earning paydays. Fight Wilder and AJ down the line, vs only fighting AJ for £5m.
plus, Whyte had only just fought Chisora in December and was offered the AJ fight in Jan. I believe Whyte just wanted a longer time to be ready for that. April was too soon for him and he was told it had to be that April date.
'anyone in the top 10 beats him'
he beat parker though didnt he? and parker is def top 10.
lastly, Whyte didnt duck Wallin, he picked Wallin out of relative obscurity when he didnt need to. The DOCTOR who confirmed Whyte's injury, is definately credible.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...xtent-25265040
are you saying this doctor is a liar? just look up his info, he works for Leicester City FC where the likes of Jamie Vardy earn more money than Whyte, incase you think he's dodgy and took some money from Whyte to lie.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostMaybe fight Helenius.
Every fighter at top level, creates their own path. You have to create your own path, and destination.
Hrgovic has not really created his own path. He is just swirling about.
Chisora, Joyce, Parker, are not going to face him because they have a clear path already set out for them.
But somebody like Helenius is coming off a big win, and maybe wants another big win 'May well face him'.
If Hrgovic can beat Helenius that will be his best win 'Apart from that, I have no idea who he has been fighting of late'.
All I see with Hrgovic is a big solid fighter, nothing really stands out about him. He seemed in better condition, around the time when he was sparring with David Haye. Sparring David Haye is probably the best action he has ever produced.
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Originally posted by mawoodhouse View PostThrow his arse in with Joe Joyce, that makes sense since Joe also claims he is avoided. Ortiz says he is avoided, so why isn’t he fighting him? Yeah all these people claiming they are being avoided….someone is lying, because someone is willing to fight ya!
Zhang will get the final elimination bout early 2022 if the others decline Hrgovic again or the IBF bumps up Zhang on purpose to get the fight going .Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-05-2021, 10:01 PM.
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Originally posted by Inspired View Post
what is your problem? you're obsessed with just hating on the matchroom guys.
for the record, i totally get where Whyte was coming from. He was a mandatory to AJ but was pushing for the mandatory for Wilder. Im sure even whyte knew he'd get battered by AJ, esp the unbeaten AJ back then..and he's already lost to AJ. Furthermore the AJ fight is a certainty for the future because AJ has said 'id like to fight whyte again'.
More importantly we all know that the stance from guys like Whyte was that Wilder had been fighting bums and would lose as soon as he had a proper step up fight vs someone proven. Look at the things Whyte said he wanted to do, those are the very things Fury later did. obv we know there's a big question mark on Whyte's chin and it's highly likely Whyte would have been put to sleep whereas Fury gets back up. However, no doubt had whyte been able to connect just once, he'd have put wilder down the same way. Eitherway...it's more about Whyte targetting Wilder and seeing him as the easier option aswell as doubling his chances of earning paydays. Fight Wilder and AJ down the line, vs only fighting AJ for £5m.
plus, Whyte had only just fought Chisora in December and was offered the AJ fight in Jan. I believe Whyte just wanted a longer time to be ready for that. April was too soon for him and he was told it had to be that April date.
'anyone in the top 10 beats him'
he beat parker though didnt he? and parker is def top 10.
lastly, Whyte didnt duck Wallin, he picked Wallin out of relative obscurity when he didnt need to. The DOCTOR who confirmed Whyte's injury, is definately credible.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...xtent-25265040
are you saying this doctor is a liar? just look up his info, he works for Leicester City FC where the likes of Jamie Vardy earn more money than Whyte, incase you think he's dodgy and took some money from Whyte to lie.
Whyte I s a coward who doesn't back himself to beat up guys as you pointed out. Despite yelling that he wants to fight them. He went as quiet as a mouse when aj contract arrived.
Whyte would instantly get a chance to fight for wbc belt if he beat AJs and has his belts. But like you said, we all know he isn't good enough to do that. He doesn't even back himself. That doesn't change in the future either.
Whyte only beat Parker because he landed a head butt kd, which ref ruled legal kd. and Whyte still almost died in that fight wave was saved by the bell at the end.
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Originally posted by Jkp View Post
What a massive contradictory rant.
Whyte I s a coward who doesn't back himself to beat up guys as you pointed out. Despite yelling that he wants to fight them. He went as quiet as a mouse when aj contract arrived.
Whyte would instantly get a chance to fight for wbc belt if he beat AJs and has his belts. But like you said, we all know he isn't good enough to do that. He doesn't even back himself. That doesn't change in the future either.
Whyte only beat Parker because he landed a head butt kd, which ref ruled legal kd. and Whyte still almost died in that fight wave was saved by the bell at the end.
the point still stands, Whyte WANTED WILDER and only then with the wbc would he come to the negotiating table with AJ again. it's likely he knew aj would beat him, but he'd stand more chance against Wilder. nothing wrong with that, it's business...
but the fact is he went through the wbc route and was chasing wilder. He wasnt actively chasing an aj fight because he already had that.
whyte wanted wilder, he wanted to 'put it on him, rough him up' and that is exactly what tyson fury did and it worked. Whyte obv felt his style would give wilder problems.
yet all i see is dopey americans writing 'but he had his shot at aj and didnt take it so he has no excuse'
wtf, so the fact he actively chased the wbc route to a wilder fight shouldnt matter?
pathetic.
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