Breadman - Greatest Hits

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It seems like he is a well respected person in the boxing world, but I always wondered why.

He has a very solid win with Julian Williams over Jarrett Hurd, but since then his fighters performed terrible.

Julian Williams lost as a big favourite vs Rosario and then lost as a big favourite vs Vlad Hernandez.

Kyrone Davies did decent vs an inactive and old dirrell, then gassed and nearly lost vs journeyman martez mcgregor and then was fed to the wolves against benavidez.

He started to work with Chaney this year. In his first fight, he struggled with ancient Shawndell Winters and then lost as a fairly big favourite against Arias.

Without McGregors 3 point deductions, Breadmans fighters would be 0-4 this year, 3 of those being the favourites.

Oh and he has a terrible betting picks site too.

I hope he doesnt have enough pull to ban users on this forum. lol

This…

He’s a clown IMO. Talks a good game but can’t walk the walk.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

He’s a damn good trainer

Based on what man? He attached himself to a talented fighter in J-Rock and rode his coattails. What’s he ever achieved with anyone else?

[tritium_arma]

I don’t know how he is as a trainer but he speaks and writes well which is a rarity in boxing. Also his fighters themselves kind of suck so there’s only so much he can do. Canelo PEDs.

[Get em up]

He is a boxing brain/historian for sure. He may be opinionated but who in this sport isnt. No matter how you scratch it up he has a good boxing brain and knows the sport even if he does pick em wrong and is biased.

[Richard Hamilton]

Compared to the quality of poster on this forum, he is a damm genius.

[siablo14]

boxingpick.com

He advises stuff like Edgar Berlange KO 1.08, 3 units against desmond nicholson.
Picks incredible low odds to pump up his "winning percentage".
And was caught switching a couple losing 10 units pick to 1 unit and then blamed it on his IT guy lol.

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[NC Uppercut]

Yh, no problem, but im curious why he should be considered a good trainer then? Shouldnt it be mostly based on his wins?

No. It should be based on Moral and environment. Stephen tries to see the good in everything

[billeau2]

It seems like he is a well respected person in the boxing world, but I always wondered why.

He has a very solid win with Julian Williams over Jarrett Hurd, but since then his fighters performed terrible.

Julian Williams lost as a big favourite vs Rosario and then lost as a big favourite vs Vlad Hernandez.

Kyrone Davies did decent vs an inactive and old dirrell, then gassed and nearly lost vs journeyman martez mcgregor and then was fed to the wolves against benavidez.

He started to work with Chaney this year. In his first fight, he struggled with ancient Shawndell Winters and then lost as a fairly big favourite against Arias.

Without McGregors 3 point deductions, Breadmans fighters would be 0-4 this year, 3 of those being the favourites.

Oh and he has a terrible betting picks site too.

I hope he doesnt have enough pull to ban users on this forum. lol

One year? really? Not much on the big picture are we?

Want to know something? Its a fact that if you want to beat greater than over 95% of the most brilliant analysts who manage stock portfolios in the world sign up for Vanguard and buy an S&P Index Fund... So why don't people do that? well they often do! But when they do they listen to brilliant analysts, they also learn that "winning" is relative. Some of the most brilliant hedge fund guys win once in a few years or more, but win really big...

Bread as a trainer is more than the win total of his fighters in a year my friend. Maybe some of those fighters will "lose" and develop better because of it. Maybe Bread is better in some capacities than others...

Many great analysts and many many many boxers make the worse picks... Look up Rummy's Corner on Utube lol! I can't tell you why that is... But it does not diminish talent, or genius in other areas. The richest people in the world use Hedge Funds... These funds seldom beat the S &P Yearly... go figure...

[billeau2]

Yh, no problem, but im curious why he should be considered a good trainer then? Shouldnt it be mostly based on his wins?

No... It should be based on how much his work has contributed to the development of fighters in general... The guy who trained Joe Louis, do you know his record? Neither do I, but he taught Louis how to perfect punching dynamics to a new level... Don Turner... how many successes has he had? Who knows? BUT he taught Hollyfield how to box. He taught him how to push in and against Tyson properly against his balance... thats his contribution... Get the idea.

[asgarth]

No... It should be based on how much his work has contributed to the development of fighters in general... The guy who trained Joe Louis, do you know his record? Neither do I, but he taught Louis how to perfect punching dynamics to a new level... Don Turner... how many successes has he had? Who knows? BUT he taught Hollyfield how to box. He taught him how to push in and against Tyson properly against his balance... thats his contribution... Get the idea.

well, he contributed to a lot of losses lately.