Pacquiao: "Cotto's Size Don't Matter, He's Not Fast"

[NSX-R]

Size does matter. Cotto will be the hardest hitting fighter Pacquiao has ever faced. But I still believe Pac by late round KO!

[wizard king]

Manny Pacquiao doesn't see the size of Miguel Cotto being an issue on November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Pacquiao challenges Cotto for his WBO welterweight title on HBO pay-per-view. Pacquiao gives Cotto the edge in size and power but he doesn't see that being an issue in the fight. He doesn't think Cotto is very fast with his punches. [details]

if size didt matter then why did they request a catchweight pac is so full of ****. pac is gonna get a wake up if he thinks his speed is gonna take care of cotto.

[jazluvr]

Cotto is not a ko puncher, he just vacant belt beater & a hypocrite, he laught at hatton who got ko but he don't wanna get near hatton when he was undefeated. If zab were a 12 rounds fighter, he would had Cotto in his jock & He fought prime a Mosley he would get perfect beating of his life, even tho that was a close fight & mosley was on the slide. he had no history ko a better fighter, but a long history to used dirty tricks when he get's frustrated, see what did to judah/torres/clottey/urkal. left hook convert into a perfect lowblow just shake off pacman rhythmes. When he get that mental beating from pac, he will need another jennings or gomez to raise his level confidence back & another vacant belt

I expected as much. Much of this can be disputed, 'bout the only thing i agree with is a prime Mosley would beat a prime cotto...maybe. And we are talking about the Mosley that got caught using steriods, right? I bet Cotto would have beaten him w/o them. Cotto has great timing skills that can nuetralize speed. Cotto thinks on his feet...cuts off the ring very well. He's not a hypocrite.

Cotto is one of the only WW who would take on the guys nobody else would fight. He said he would fight anybody. That includes Ricky. All body punchers are prone to an occasional low blow, it's practically inevitable. Again with the fortune telling...get off this ****.."When he get that mental beating from pac" what the hell does that mean...Pacs gonna beat him with his mind?
What happened to the physical aspecs of the fight? Cotto is a boxer-brawler-power puncher.
"Cotto is not a ko puncher";
I've seen him send more than one fighter to the canvas with that deadly left hook.
Nobody knows jack about who's going to win..and anybody that claims to know is full of ****!!!! The only thing we can do is judge and give our opinions and speculate. That's why they are fighting... to find out!
Respect

[Beater_of_ass]

If you think Cotto is going to have an easy night, you're ******. If you think Manny is going to have an easy fighter, you're even more ******. People bring up Cotto's wins over Malignaggi, Judah and Mosley as proof that Cotto can handle speed, yet I saw someone say those fights have no bearing on this fight, because Manny is faster than stronger than those other guys. Stronger is up for debate and Manny may have a slight edge in those guys over speed, but to say those fights should have no bearing on the outcome of this one is beyond my understanding.

People bring up Paq's power because he's KO'd bigger guys in Hatton and DLH. Well, using the logic that past fights have no bearing on current/future ones, then Paq's power must also be thrown out the window then? Seriously, people need to understand that BOTH these fighters have shown whatever strengths the other possesses, they've been able to overcome them with their own ability, except for one.

Manny has never been hit by a guy this big, and while he has a great chin the question is how good his body is. Cotto is quite possibly the best body puncher in boxing and it just so happens to be the biggest guy Manny has ever faced. Manny's biggest asset in this fight isn't his speed, power, footwork, head movement and angles. Its the fact that he does this for 12 rounds and doesn't seem to fade, thus conditioning is his biggest advantage. Obviously the perfect counter for this is do as much damage to the body as early as possible, I can't think of anyone who does this better than Cotto.

Cotto's never been in the ring with a guy this fast, who creates angles (the best in the business.) Cotto has shown he can handle speed because he has such fantastic timing, and contrary to what people think he has very very good counter punching ability. But this is where Manny's speed comes into play, Manny could be just too fast Cotto, and he creates great angles. He also packs a very solid punch and while Paq doesn't have the greatest defense, his offense, especially recently has gotten so good he really has no need for defense as long as he keeps moving.

The fact is both of these guys equalize each other, and really makes this fight very difficult to call. But I'm going with Cotto for a few reasons, which mainly center around Manny's angles and movement. Again Manny is EXCELLENT and both movement and angles, however, they are the same thing over and over again, and it works flawlessly. The major problem I see though is Manny loves moving to the left of his opponents after one of his solid straight lefts. Not only that but he leaves himself quite open to a counter left while doing this. Normally I'd say this slight flaw is too minor to make a difference but thats why I see Cotto as being a danger. He is a southpaw who fights ortodox, essentially his fastest punches are his strongest and Manny's going to be stuck in that wheelhouse. Once Cotto gets Manny's timing down (IF he does) Manny is some deep trouble and I see a counter left hook to the body or head just taking its toll on Manny. Not to mention whatever damage a jab can do from Cotto's left, its already knocked down 2 opponents, whether it be because of timing, power or a combo of both the fact is its quite possibly the biggest weapon for Cotto in this fight.

The other reason I see Cotto with the edge in this fight, is because Cotto is not a one dimensional fighter as Manny seem to assume. Sure, he was nothing but a one dimensional up to his fight with Judah. After that is when Cotto showed how versatile he really is. He showed how good his hand speed and timing is the the Mosley fight. He showed how well he can box in the Marg fight before either he tired or the possibly loaded gloves got hard, or a combo of both. And against Clottey he showed resilience fighting through a vicious cut like that. Cotto is just more versatile and his ability to change tactics mid-fight and even round, along with the "reverse" stance he employs I see him winning. By no means will it be easy but I'm giving the edge to Cotto for those reasons.

[rommel357]

Judah was faster than Cotto right? Mosley was faster than Cotto right? He handled that well. Speed can be neutralized. Cotto can handle speed. He's deceptively fast and has great timing, especially with his jab. Let's see how Pacquiao can take getting cracked by Cotto.

Manny is faster than both Judah and Mosley.

[HattonFaithful]

relax guy im just having fun with u. mannys my 3rd favorite fighter behind money may and mosley. it's his fans i can't stand. ive never rooted against manny in a fight. hes from the phillipines and i love phillipinas. their hot.

alright man i know its just a little hard to tell with the internet on whats real ans what joking but still youre gonna hve to realize that this forum there are a lot of people who are douche's and dont know what the F*** they are talkin about so i mean just speak intelligently and its all good hope you the best in the future but i do disagree with you that manny will "get knocked out of the ring" i think he's gonna give cotto the fight of his life (more than clottley did) anyways good luck IM headed off to the giants dodgers game GO GIANTS LATE

[Pullcounter]

I expected as much. Much of this can be disputed, 'bout the only thing i agree with is a prime Mosley would beat a prime cotto...maybe.

prime mosley beats a prime cotto

And we are talking about the Mosley that got caught using steriods, right?

no the one that dominated 135 lbs and jumped up to 147 lbs.

I bet Cotto would have beaten him w/o them.

nope

Cotto has great timing skills that can nuetralize speed. Cotto thinks on his feet...cuts off the ring very well.

cotto barely beat an old mosley, how he gonna beat a younger mosley?

Cotto is one of the only WW who would take on the guys nobody else would fight. He said he would fight anybody. That includes Ricky.

true

All body punchers are prone to an occasional low blow, it's practically inevitable.

he purposefully hit judah low to get rest tho.

Again with the fortune telling...get off this ****.."When he get that mental beating from pac" what the hell does that mean...Pacs gonna beat him with his mind?

not sure what that means either

What happened to the physical aspecs of the fight? Cotto is a boxer-brawler-power puncher.

cotto is a puncher-boxer

"Cotto is not a ko puncher";

true

I've seen him send more than one fighter to the canvas with that deadly left hook.

against bums, sure

Nobody knows jack about who's going to win..and anybody that claims to know is full of ****!!!! The only thing we can do is judge and give our opinions and speculate.

true

That's why they are fighting... to find out!
Respect

true

[jazluvr]

lol thats some funny **** right there my dude!!

Kinda funny and sad at the same time. I meant it as advice, but it looked like a jab. He needed it.

[jazluvr]

prime mosley beats a prime cotto



no the one that dominated 135 lbs and jumped up to 147 lbs.


nope


cotto barely beat an old mosley, how he gonna beat a younger mosley?


true


he purposefully hit judah low to get rest tho.


not sure what that means either


cotto is a puncher-boxer


true


against bums, sure


true

true

Lol...factcheck.org hard at work!

[Quarty]

I expected as much. Much of this can be disputed, 'bout the only thing i agree with is a prime Mosley would beat a prime cotto...maybe. And we are talking about the Mosley that got caught using steriods, right? I bet Cotto would have beaten him w/o them. Cotto has great timing skills that can nuetralize speed. Cotto thinks on his feet...cuts off the ring very well. He's not a hypocrite.

Cotto is one of the only WW who would take on the guys nobody else would fight. He said he would fight anybody. That includes Ricky. All body punchers are prone to an occasional low blow, it's practically inevitable. Again with the fortune telling...get off this ****.."When he get that mental beating from pac" what the hell does that mean...Pacs gonna beat him with his mind?
What happened to the physical aspecs of the fight? Cotto is a boxer-brawler-power puncher.
"Cotto is not a ko puncher";
I've seen him send more than one fighter to the canvas with that deadly left hook.
Nobody knows jack about who's going to win..and anybody that claims to know is full of ****!!!! The only thing we can do is judge and give our opinions and speculate. That's why they are fighting... to find out!
Respect

Mosley did say that he took steroid, but nevada commision found out nothing.
like i said, cotto got all the attributes depending who he fight, i seen him sending body shot on gomez/jennings/urkal but never had this attribute on mosley/clottey/margo, he didn't lay any bodyshot on margo not even one, maybe margo skills is better than i thought. i have no problem if he could ko Pac, but i wanna to see it, not just ***** yapping.