Ortiz vs Porter who’s the better fighter?

[Rockybigblower]

I would pick Shawn over Virgil Ortiz, Victor Ortiz, Luiz Ortiz in a catchweight fight and Tito Ortiz in a streetfight. He's great.

[Sctrojan]

Danny Garcia was always a legend in the mind of the Bud haters, who also Called mean machine a bum, so you can't walk it back now.

Never held Garcia more than a solid B fighter at Welter,Jr welters is a different story. That Garsh got left behind at 140 where he was massive for the weight. Have always held Bud in high regard so...

[Sheldon312]

That is pure speculation. Ortiz jr. is only a contender. Crawford and Spence have fought world champs.

Outside of Ennis, Crawford, and Spence name a welterweight that could take 4th spot. He beat kalvelusius up worse than Crawford

[TernceBudCharlo]

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Never held Garcia more than a solid B fighter at Welter,Jr welters is a different story. That Garsh got left behind at 140 where he was massive for the weight. Have always held Bud in high regard so...

OK. You're right about Virgil I just don't think he has the speed and reflexes to give Bud any problems. Bud can negate that **** very quick, it's a lot easier to take away than Porter's speed and awkwardness. Styles make fights. It's like what happens to GGG every time he faces someone w more speed than him, he looks very ordinary and hittable.

I also think Garcia is very overrated at welter, even junior welter though where he lost to Herrera, I just say this because everyone on here said that Porter/Garcia/Thurman were the boogeyman for Bud.

[Sheldon312]

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OK. You're right about Virgil I just don't think he has the speed and reflexes to give Bud any problems. Bud can negate that **** very quick, it's a lot easier to take away than Porter's speed and awkwardness. Styles make fights. It's like what happens to GGG every time he faces someone w more speed than him, he looks very ordinary and hittable.

I also think Garcia is very overrated at welter, even junior welter though where he lost to Herrera, I just say this because everyone on here said that Porter/Garcia/Thurman were the boogeyman for Bud.

Crawford has never been in the ring with a puncher like Vergil and Crawford gets tagged way too much