Could Terence Have Beat Floyd

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  • djtmal
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    #81
    Originally posted by Carpe Diem

    Thing is, Crawford isn’t as fast. Prime Floyd was just superior in every athletic categories. He could throw the leaping left hook and lead straight right hand blindingly fast, and then you add his timing into the mix, Crawford would be in for a long night getting his head snap back. Crawford can easily be baited into a brawl once he starts to get frustrated. Crawford wants to get you right back once you hit him, but frustration would set in once he realizes he can hit Floyd as consistently as Floyd can hit him.
    Floyd displayed that against guys who were either past their prime, or b,c fighters, and he definitely never displayed all of that against a fighter presented a style mismatch who could box
    Last edited by djtmal; 11-21-2021, 06:54 PM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013

      I don't think Floyd has much superior speed, timing or accuracy. I would give him the edge on defense but Crawford isn't exactly the easiest guy to hit. But he will put himself in position to land one/take one.

      Crawford walks around close to 180 I believe. Floyd probably 160. As I said, reach-wise it would be the longest guy Floyd faced if I have the numbers right. That changes the game for me as far as a fight goes.
      I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Roadblock


        And then why bring up a done retired Floyd walking down a 25lb bigger MMA guy in a spectacle, totally irrelevant fight.

        Because this is who Floyd only fights even as a pro. Fighters who are low to no risk. He knows fanboys like you will always make excuses for him.

        If Conor was a prime pro boxer with height and reach on Floyd trust me Floyd isn't risking his 0 he is going on vacation. Floyd will give up some weight to a guy, but height/reach either the guy is a name brand shopworn fighter, or a t total bum like McGregor or the Youtuber a t total bum he can exploit to get at another bag.

        What do Khan, Paul Williams, Margarito, Thurman, Winky Wright have in common. They are fighters who got height reach on Floyd that he deftly avoided one way or another. Crawford seems to be better than all of those guys so there's no way in the world you would have me to believe Floyd is going to fight this guy in his prime.
        Last edited by djtmal; 11-21-2021, 07:15 PM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Boxing-1013

          Personally I feel Floyd was a bit uneasy early vs McGregor - McGregor is unorthodox in many ways - lefty, unique boxing style, and also, no film on him up to that point. But also I think Conor's size had Floyd cautious early.

          I think Bud shares most of those attributes as well. One could argue Floyd carried him, or Floyd was past prime at that point. That former narrative is hard to believe for me. The latter is believable to a degree.

          But yes I think Bud's size would have given Floyd problems, along with the skills Crawford possesses. It would not have been an easy night for Floyd, most likely. At some point Crawford would be likely to have success against Floyd, and Crawford is excellent when he finds an opening.
          Bud has never been in a ring with a fighter that matches if not exceeds his ring IQ , is defensively superior , better counter puncher, better inside fighter and a lot quicker. He may never have any openings to exploit. Then again he may but beating PORTER which no doubt is a good victory but it isn't a good enough opponent for me to think he beats floyd. Especially with how frequently he was being hit. I will perhaps look more favourably at bud if he dismantles a Spence which sadly i can see happening because of SPENCE'S ROUGH 18 MONTHS

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            #85
            floyd beats crawford at any weight. floyd is too fast, did you see how much porter landed on him? floyd will land on him easy

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              #86
              Originally posted by djtmal


              Because this is who Floyd only fights even as a pro. Fighters who are low to no risk. He knows fanboys like you will always make excuses for him.

              If Conor was a prime pro boxer with height and reach on Floyd trust me Floyd isn't risking his 0 he is going on vacation. Floyd will give up some weight to a guy, but height/reach either the guy is a name brand shopworn fighter, or a t total bum like McGregor or the Youtuber a t total bum he can exploit to get at another bag.

              What do Khan, Paul Williams, Margarito, Thurman, Winky Wright have in common. They are fighters who got height reach on Floyd that he deftly avoided one way or another. Crawford seems to be better than all of those guys so there's no way in the world you would have me to believe Floyd is going to fight this guy in his prime.
              KHAN?? KNOCKED OUT IN EVERY WEIGHT CLASS FROM 135LBS TO 154LBS

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                #87
                Originally posted by Noelanthony

                KHAN?? KNOCKED OUT IN EVERY WEIGHT CLASS FROM 135LBS TO 154LBS
                Watch your mouth! Put some respeck on Khan’s name. He’s the best of his era and the GOAT.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by elfag
                  floyd beats crawford at any weight. floyd is too fast, did you see how much porter landed on him? floyd will land on him easy
                  Yeah Terence was quite open for the right

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony

                    Bud has never been in a ring with a fighter that matches if not exceeds his ring IQ , is defensively superior , better counter puncher, better inside fighter and a lot quicker. He may never have any openings to exploit. Then again he may but beating PORTER which no doubt is a good victory but it isn't a good enough opponent for me to think he beats floyd. Especially with how frequently he was being hit. I will perhaps look more favourably at bud if he dismantles a Spence which sadly i can see happening because of SPENCE'S ROUGH 18 MONTHS
                    Well I agree that I no longer favor Spence in that fight. I don't know what he has left. I don't think Floyd has any huge advantages over Crawford, my 2 cents

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                      Well I agree that I no longer favor Spence in that fight. I don't know what he has left. I don't think Floyd has any huge advantages over Crawford, my 2 cents
                      Ring iq and defense for starters

                      it takes Terence TWICE as long to figure an opponent out

                      Floyd rarely ever got caught too. Terence gets caught every fight especially when he figuring the opponent out

                      Floyd processing speed is superior

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