If heavier punchers like Thurman and Spence couldn't stop Porter....

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  • SweetPbfAli
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    #31
    Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva
    Wait people actually think Crawford punch for punch hits harder than Thurman?
    I think it's more than that. Bud throws shots a lot of fighters don't when trying to counter. Timing and speed is the key. Thurman telegraphs every damn punch but you definitely should see them coming.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Sheldon312

      Both are clearly better than Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia. Don't get it twisted.
      well they have to actually prove that in the ring man

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        #33
        Originally posted by Damn Wicked

        Danny Garcia disagrees with you and he’s been in the ring with both guys. He said Thurman hits harder than Spence.
        People have made this point to me before but guess what? Fighters lie..

        Just look at their common opponents.

        Garcia- went the distance with both.
        Porter- Spence dropped him, Thurman didn’t, both went 12.
        Bundu- Spence iced him, Thurman went 12 with him.

        Regardless of what Garcia says, the evidence tells us otherwise.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          Speed and timing is what gives Bud his KOs.
          It's a shame stuff like this has to be explained tbh

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            #35
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            People have made this point to me before but guess what? Fighters lie..

            Just look at their common opponents.

            Garcia- went the distance with both.
            Porter- Spence dropped him, Thurman didn’t, both went 12.
            Bundu- Spence iced him, Thurman went 12 with him.

            Regardless of what Garcia says, the evidence tells us otherwise.
            Nah, volume of punches landed can trump single shot power and so can placement of a punch (where the punch lands) and many other things contribute to stopping an opponents. Consistent pressure wears the opponent down also, so that’s yet one more factor that can contribute to stopping an opponent. You’re trying to prove a point using the triangle theory but that doesn’t work in boxing because a fighter’s style is a much much important factor than single punch power. Spence is a volume puncher and pressure fighter, while Thurman is more of a boxer - puncher.

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              #36
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              People have made this point to me before but guess what? Fighters lie..

              Just look at their common opponents.

              Garcia- went the distance with both.
              Porter- Spence dropped him, Thurman didn’t, both went 12.
              Bundu- Spence iced him, Thurman went 12 with him.

              Regardless of what Garcia says, the evidence tells us otherwise.
              Whatchu mean "regardless of Garcia says" LOL he's been in the ring with both and lost to both. He holds no loyalty to either fighter for him to be lying lol

              You could look at common opponents. Yeah, Spence scored a flash knockdown on Porter. But Thurman rocked Porter atleast twice in their fight. Spence only rocked him once. Thurman also rocked Garcia once or twice in their fight. Spence did not

              You know who else dropped Porter besides Spence? Adrien Broner lol he hit harder than Thurman too?

              Yeah, some fighters may lie, but doesn't seem like Danny cares about either Spence or Thurman to lie about who hits harder

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sheldon312
                Why is Crawford being favoured by stoppage or KO? I see a lot of people saying he stops Porter and I don't understand why?
                Bud is a hard puncher too.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sheldon312

                  It's easy to look "mean" when you look at his opposition. He could barely get a one-legged Benavidez out of there.
                  spence couldn't get a blown up fat super lightweight in mikey garcia out there spence is supposed to be the biggest puncher at welterweight LOL where was his killer instinct against mikey?

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                    #39
                    Eroll Spencer Junior is not in my opinion a spiteful monstrous puncher, his strength is situated in his stamina and physical strength. Out of Thurman & Crawford? Spence Junior is the strongest physically. Keith Thurman maybe hits harder than Crawford with a single punch, but overall Terrence Crawford is the most spiteful and violent of them all.

                    If somebody hits Terrence Crawford, you can see him visibly being insulted by that 'And then he wants to get them back'. Usually you don't see that kind of reaction in elite level fighters, I can only recall that in fighters such as Nigel Benn and probably Mike Tyson during the late 80's and 90's.

                    If Terrence Crawford as woken up today, with the intention of stopping Shawn Porter 'But sure that, he is going to put all his efforts into doing just that' from all angles and positions, he will be subjecting Porter to heavy bombardment'

                    I think deep down Terrence Crawford is only coming for a stoppage win, in his mind 'That is the objective'.

                    If Crawford stops Porter, it will be between rounds 9-12.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      People have made this point to me before but guess what? Fighters lie..

                      Just look at their common opponents.

                      Garcia- went the distance with both.
                      Porter- Spence dropped him, Thurman didn’t, both went 12.
                      Bundu- Spence iced him, Thurman went 12 with him.

                      Regardless of what Garcia says, the evidence tells us otherwise.
                      What reason would Garcia have to lie? He said Thurman was harder puncher but Spence was physically stronger. When Porter fought Thurman he said he was the hardest puncher he’d felt to that point. As someone else pointed out, Broner had dropped Porter before and Thurman didn’t. Is Porter a liar now too? Porter said the lights went out for a second against Thurman. He’s a puncher.
                      Last edited by mxtali; 11-20-2021, 07:13 AM.

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