Why do many say "everyone would get destroyed at 168 by prime RJJ"?

[kushking]

I constantly see people saying that quote, despite RJJ only really beating Toney as far as elite 168s & he was barely entering his prime,just like Canelo he wasn't at his absolute best til late 20s,

conversely the same ppl say Canelo & others would lose because he had xyz fights before his prime that supposedly showed he would lose to RJJ at 168, despite current smw Canelo being the best 1 yet at smw unlike RJJ who was best at lhw(his prime)

His best division was by far 175, & Canelo has just done what nobody had ever done at smw before,& to top it off he did it after already having something like 17 belts at lower weights(his resume is far deeper too), & he did it in the span of 11 mos along with blasting out his mandatory who made Benevidez best win cheat quit(Dirrell),& Yildirim was only his mando Because WBC had him already marinating to be fed to DB before he was stripped.

3 undefeated champions & the only one who survived was the lineal in Smith who went in survival mode early on just to last 12 & y'all trying to tell me that RJJ would blast Canelo out or whoop him? Really?

Ward too really?

[Oracle01]

You just saw Caleb Plant give Canelo a competitive fight which was close on many cards and your curious how a prime Roy Jones would whoop him? lol the fan boys here. Roy was a faster, bigger, more powerful version of Mayweather, and would beat the living crap out of the flat footed Canelo, and stop him late. What do you think Canelo would have for him? He would counter and corner a prime Jones who was probably twice as fast as him? Get a grip.

[SN!PER]

Prime Roy made guys look like they were moving in slow motion.

He was boxing's version of Neo before the script for The Matrix had even been written.

[kushking]

You just saw Caleb Plant give Canelo a competitive fight which was close on many cards and your curious how a prime Roy Jones would whoop him? lol the fan boys here. Roy was a faster, bigger, more powerful version of Mayweather, and would beat the living crap out of the flat footed Canelo, and stop him late. What do you think Canelo would have for him? He would counter and corner a prime Jones who was probably twice as fast as him? Get a grip.

Are you too dumb to even read,I just told you RJJ only beat Toney at 168 & a few bums & cws(& in his prime couldn't even make smw anymore)

,Caleb Plant won at MOST 3 rds & was ktfo & might've gotten eye broken(just like BJS,but unlike BJS he doesn't want anyone to know)

And I predicted the exact punch combo that would end the fight at exactly the time of the fight too

"competitive fight"

[kushking]

Prime Roy made guys look like they were moving in slow motion.

He was boxing's version of Neo before the script for The Matrix had even been written.

So you're saying its based on eye test then?

I think Canelo at 168 is the new RJJ, he'll become legendary after he retires & ppl will remember his opponents fondly based on his memory

[JakeTheBoxer]

How not. Canelo made Lara looking great at 154. Why should I believe Canelo would be a very tough fight for RJJ?

Nah, Canelo is slow and flat footed. I said it many times, the only reason he is looking great is, there is no real competition around at 168.

[BigDramaShow!]

Tarver knocks Roy out at any weight class.

[Oracle01]

Are you too dumb to even read,I just told you RJJ only beat Toney at 168 & a few bums & cws(& in his prime couldn't even make smw anymore)

,Caleb Plant won at MOST 3 rds & was ktfo & might've gotten eye broken(just like BJS,but unlike BJS he doesn't want anyone to know)

And I predicted the exact punch combo that would end the fight at exactly the time of the fight too

"competitive fight"

Even if you only give plant 3 rounds, the fact remains all the rounds were very close and competitive, and plant is literally nothing compared to to prime Roy Jones. You sound like a real casual. Canelo has beaten a few very avg champions and all the casuals getting carried away. lol

[kushking]

Even if you only give plant 3 rounds, the fact remains all the rounds were very close and competitive, and plant is literally nothing compared to to prime Roy Jones. You sound like a real casual. Canelo has beaten a few very avg champions and all the casuals getting carried away. lol

I never said Plant is anything like RJJ dummy,I corrected your false claim that Plant gave a competitive fight despite at no point being close on the cards & getting systematically broken down & stopped according to plan.(Plant got heavily outlanded in power shots & jabs even ffs,power shots were like 2/1)

The fact that Canelo cleaned out smw with 2 kos out of 3 prime Undefeated champs(2/3 were naturally bigger opponents too) in 1 yr despite covid shows greatness by definition greater than anything RJJ did at smw.

Its hilarious that you call me a casual despite your saying that just because RJJ was faster that it means he would ko Canelo

And its just as casual to act as if RJJ in any way resembles Floyd,& as I said dummies say"RJJ in his prime" then in same breathe mention Canelos fights at young age & weightdrained

[sunny31]

Canelo is pretty fast, but Roy was warp speed, and he was an unbelievable puncher, unorthodox, he was just a "different" athlete. I think it is difficult to separate yourself athletically in elite sport, but Roy did.

On top of that he could really box/fight. In his prime, everything Roy did was pretty tight, crisp, I think if you were nitpicking you'd say his defence was over reliant on reflexes and speed. He might not be as fundamentally sound as say Floyd or some other past greats but he still had enough in those areas, and he could literally knock his opponent out in any second of any round and I think that is the thing that made him so difficult to fight, he punched too hard to take liberties with.

I am going to give Canelo the benefit of the doubt and say he could win some of the middle rounds, but I think it's a wide decision where Canelo's face gets busted up. Roy was surreal in his prime.

For the record I think he'd do the same to the likes of Calzaghe, Ward, etc.

I couldn't see any of those guys taking more than 4 rounds off him.

I think Roy's steep decline has made him somewhat underrated, but I rate his prime as high as any fighter that lived. His training as a child/teenager seemed closer to torcher than training, I question his fathers parenting, but what I'll give him, is he made a ridiculous fighting machine.