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  • The Big Dunn
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    #101
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Barrera was on a 8 run win streak and was pfp no1 or 2 and was favourite against pac. Floyd was favourite against pac as pac is a former light flyweight. Your half way right that Pac wasn't a great win for floyd just like it wasn't for horn.
    He had been stopped and retired and came back. Sorry but that is the truth. If Manny isn’t a great win, neither is Barrera.

    You can’t have it both ways.

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    • hugh grant
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      #102
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      He had been stopped and retired and came back. Sorry but that is the truth. If Manny isn’t a great win, neither is Barrera.

      You can’t have it both ways.
      Yes he was stopped and came back stronger, was on a near 4 year, 8 winning streak - beating morales, hamed and Kevin kelly.
      Barrera was a great win for Pac better than anything on floyds resume.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 11-12-2021, 10:33 AM.

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        #103
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Yes he was stopped and came back stronger, was on a near 4 year, 8 winning streak - beating morales, hamed and Kevin kelly.
        Barrera was a great win for Pac better than anything on floyds resume.
        After he retired and came back. Sorry but you can’t have it both ways.

        You don’t even believe this. No it wasn’t. It was equal to JMM

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          #104
          P4P, Saul never beats Floyd. He would have a size and power advantage, that's it.

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            #105
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            After he retired and came back. Sorry but you can’t have it both ways.

            You don’t even believe this. No it wasn’t. It was equal to JMM
            Your a Floyd fan not a boxing fan and anything you say confirms that. Nel o has surpassed lil floyd. Nel o takes , ggg, bjs,smiths, plants zero in as many fights or steps up 2 divisions, whilst Floyd beats people's used goods, with cw in backyard with ivs.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 11-12-2021, 11:43 AM.

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              #106
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              Your a Floyd fan not a boxing fan and anything you say confirms that
              I watched the sport for over 15 years before Floyd boxed professionally and still watch it now that he is retired.

              Everything I post confirms that.

              You’re a know nothing Manny cum slurper. You only know Manny and his fights. You had no idea about Barrera because you don’t follow the sport.

              Don’t be upset that a knowledgeable fan like me made you look like an idiot pole smoker.

              Learn the sport.

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                #107
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                I watched the sport for over 15 years before Floyd boxed professionally and still watch it now that he is retired.


                You’re a know nothing Manny cum slurper. You only know Manny and his fights. .
                I like many boxers, your just a Floyd die-hard and you ha te pac. You know nothing about barrera that's relevant. You claim barrera was past prime just cos he had wars? Well how past prime was Pac with his 70 fighters when Floyd beat pac?

                History of boxing has traditionally put value in fighting outside backyard or stepping up 2 divisions would be seen as impressive but just because Floyd s not done it, floyd fans don't put any value in it, things floyd s not did Floyd fans don't respect? Floyd fans only talk unbeaten revords? Anything Floyd does is what Floyd fans respect. CWs, ivs are things history of sport don't really like but Floyd diehards do? Floyd fans logic is all twisted and reversed?
                Last edited by hugh grant; 11-12-2021, 02:19 PM.

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                  #108
                  Using the canelo and Floyd's fight from last decade doesn't help to answer the question. There are some major factors which would change in the event of a rematch.

                  A) Floyd wouldn't be able to weight drain canelo down again.
                  B) canelo is no longer a green teenager
                  C)now that Floyd is a confirmed ped user, both fighters would have to use a neutral unbiased testing agency. Floyd can no longer pay usada to hide his positive ped tests and grant him a tue 2 weeks after the fact for illegal iv.

                  Floyd already struggled to beat him the first time around. I don't see Floyd winning against canelo with those 3 factors no longer in play

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    I like many boxers, your just a Floyd die-hard and you ha te pac. You know nothing about barrera that's relevant. You claim barrera was past prime just cos he had wars? Well how past prime was Pac with his 70 fighters when Floyd beat pac?

                    History of boxing has traditionally put value in fighting outside backyard or stepping up 2 divisions would be seen as impressive but just because Floyd s not done it, floyd fans don't put any value in it, things floyd s not did Floyd fans don't respect? Floyd fans only talk unbeaten revords? Anything Floyd does is what Floyd fans respect. CWs, ivs are things history of sport don't really like but Floyd diehards do? Floyd fans logic is all twisted and reversed?
                    I didn’t post anything like that. I posted he retired and came back.

                    manny did cws as well.

                    floyd is just better.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Toyman
                      Using the canelo and Floyd's fight from last decade doesn't help to answer the question. There are some major factors which would change in the event of a rematch.

                      A) Floyd wouldn't be able to weight drain canelo down again.
                      B) canelo is no longer a green teenager
                      C)now that Floyd is a confirmed ped user, both fighters would have to use a neutral unbiased testing agency. Floyd can no longer pay usada to hide his positive ped tests and grant him a tue 2 weeks after the fact for illegal iv.

                      Floyd already struggled to beat him the first time around. I don't see Floyd winning against canelo with those 3 factors no longer in play
                      When did Floyd test positive for PED’s?

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