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  • #91
    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    Ha Camacho beat Sugar Ray AND Duran wtf are you talking about.
    If Floyd got all the respect he needs why does he have to feel the need to troll Canelo every time he announces a fight.

    Floyd. The only fighter I know, that they make excuses for, and he actually won the fight.

    Insert Floyd excuses here

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    Duran and SRL were 40+ and many thought that Duran beat Camacho the first time. Camacho was absolute trash at 160.

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    • #92
      Caleb Plant was arguably within a couple of rounds of him at the time of stoppage.

      Canelo loses to Mayweather any day of his life. 2007 Mayweather would destroy Canelo.

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      • #93
        Enlighten me please why articles like this always get so many comments. What’s this obsession with if this boxer or that boxer or peak version of some other boxer could have beat Floyd?

        Floyd retired undefeated, but I don’t see the same passion surrounding hypothetical matchups with other fighters who retired undefeated (Ward, Calzaghe, Lopez, to name some). Floyd also used the moniker TBE, but I don’t see the same passion regarding arguments of who could have beaten Ali or Eubank Sr. (who also used similar monikers).

        Floyd was a ATG, but he was not invincible. He lost in the Olympics and looked touchable in his pro fights with Castillo (first fight), SSM (first few rounds), and Maidana (both fights).

        So, what’s with so many bloaks obsessing over if / who could beat Mayweather? Don’t get me wrong, I love a good hypothetical matchup, but I honestly don’t get the Floyd thing.

        I’d honestly be more interested in the question, of if Canelo could have beaten PRIME GGG (who was a hammer), or RJJ (perhaps the fastest middleweight in history), or prime Hopkins (maybe the best all-around boxer since SRR). But, that’s just my two centavos.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
          At 154 you dont have this Canelo, this Canelo has no chance of making 154, his power game went up with his weight, Plant is not 1/2 the quality what Floyd is and the style still gave Canelo lots of problems, catching up and hitting Plant doesn't touch Floyd .

          So lets look at it as if they are both the same weight and it's their respective perfect weight, Floyd would box his ears off again and Canelo is missing big shots and countered all night, Canelos footwork cannot get near Mayweather.
          this here.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post
            people have to let that Floyd fight go..Canelo is better because of it
            Is he though? Plant showed that the same style still gives Canelo fits and has him confused, and Plant is a fraction of the fighter Floyd was.

            So is Canelo that much better because of it?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              People have concluded floyd beat the weakest version of Nelo, all FLoyd had to do was rematch the improved version to prove your theory. But FLoyd and his fans have no problem with people thinking that floyd beat the weakest version. Otherwise theyd want floyd to prove otherwise and that he can indeed beat the scary Nelo.
              People haven’t concluded anything.

              D1ck gobbling Manny stan cum gurglers that can’t get over his losing to Floyd, like you and djtmal, say this is the weakest version of Canelo because Manny doesn’t have as quality a win on his resume.

              Barrera was out of retirement and had been stopped by Jones. Morales was coming down in weight and had just got destroyed by Zahir Raheem. Cotto and Margs were catchweight. Odh, Shane and hatton were all beaten by Floyd first .
              JMM was cheated by the judges then took matters into his own hands.

              He also beat some dude who got caught trying to cheat and lying on his form. That dude didn’t even look as good as Berto or Conor.

              Frankly. He did as well as the Japanese kickboxer did in the exhibition
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              • #97
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                People haven’t concluded anything.

                D1ck gobbling Manny stan cum gurglers that can’t get over his losing to Floyd, like you and djtmal, say this is the weakest version of Canelo because Manny doesn’t have as quality a win on his resume.

                Barrera was out of retirement and had been stopped by Jones.
                of course people conclude it was the weakest version of nelo, what do you think CW was for, Floyd wanted a weak nelo? What, you think the CW was to get a strong nelo? The boxing world knows the cw was to weaken nelo, so why would people then conclude it was a strong version of nelo? You know how maidena made life hell for floyd. Nel o can do that now, he'd not let floyd off hook.

                barrera beat na seen hamed and was pfp no1 or 2 who did nel o beat? How is barrera not better win lol?
                You need to try make a better job of pretending your a boxing fan rather than floyd diehard.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 11-11-2021, 07:43 PM.

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                • #98
                  the fact is canelo lost and lost badly and theres nothing that his loser fan base can do about it. the only thing that changed in him after that fight was that he decided he needed to use PEDS to try to become the best. fortunately for him theres no fighters at 168 that are anywhere near mayweathers skill level so he wont get embarrassed again, he can carry on looking like a million dollars landing his combos on them slow stiff super middleweights and semi retired light heavyweights with alcohol problems
                  Last edited by Madison Boxing; 11-11-2021, 06:47 PM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                    of course people conclude it was the weakest version of nelo, what do you think CW was for, Floyd wanted a weak nelo? What, you think the CW was to get a strong nelo? The boxing world knows the cw was to weaken nelo, so why would people then conclude it was a strong version of nelo? You know how maidena made life hell for floyd. Nel o can do that now, he'd not let floyd off hook.

                    barrera beat na seen hamed and was pfp no1 or 2 who did nel o beat? How is barrera not better win lol?
                    You need to try make a better job of pretending your a boxing fan rather than floyd diehard.
                    Barrera was retired and came back. He also had been stopped. These are facts. So he was damaged goods.

                    Manny was p4p #2 when Floyd beat him. So if the Manny win is no good, neither is Barrera.



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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      Barrera was retired and came back. He also had been stopped. These are facts. So he was damaged goods.

                      Manny was p4p #2 when Floyd beat him. So if the Manny win is no good, neither is Barrera.


                      Barrera was on a 8 run win streak and was pfp no1 or 2 and was favourite against pac. Floyd was favourite against pac as pac is a former light flyweight with 70 fights under belt. Floyd s whole career he only had 49 fights so you can imagine how worn Pac was. Doesn't take einstein to figure out that one.
                      Your half way right that Pac wasn't a great win for floyd just like it wasn't for horn.
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 11-12-2021, 09:16 AM.

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