Canelo gets a B- from me for his non-existent jab

[KillaMane26]

Golovkin neutralized Canelo with a beautiful and stiff jab. Could argue that single punch should’ve won GGG both fights.

That's what lost him the second fight, forgetting judges don't value jabs as much as they probably should. But then again this the pros so no surprise there

[-Kev-]

Golovkin neutralized Canelo with a beautiful and stiff jab. Could argue that single punch should’ve won GGG both fights.

No one’s gonna get a decision after getting outlanded in power punches, in more rounds, like Canelo did to GGG.

GGG threw 800 punches in the rematch, with 500 being jabs. Canelo threw 600 punches and 350 were power punches. Canelo was more accurate, landed more meaningful shots in more rounds.

If you thought GGG “beat” Canelo with his “jabs”, we will just agree to disagree. In no point in the history of boxing will a fighter get a decision over another fighter outlanded them in more rounds with meaningful punches. And if that was GGG “neutralizing” Canelo then, just lol, is all I could say to that.

[BodyBagz]

Nelo gave away almost 1/2 foot in height and 4'' in reach and OP worrying about Nelo not jabbing enough

[Blond Beast]

Canelo has always had freakish long arms. You could see it specifically in the Rhodes fight. He’s grown into LHW torso but his growth in the legs were stunted. He’s literally the RUNT from the Alvarez litter, just not in the initial batch

When I was young I used to assume most people were the vitruvian man. Everything proportioned to a mathematical ratio or ergonomic standard. It’s not the case at all. There are so many different builds and proportions. Boxing helped me see that. Shorter guys having longer reach than their taller opponents. I’m also a bodybuilding fan and that sport also exposes all the different proportions, muscular strengths, weaknesses, shapes we all come in. I read an article listing the arm span of a bunch of great fighters. Almost all of them had long arms in a very upper percentile, course there’s a million traits that make up a boxer. I watched some video on Marciano the other day. He had the smallest fists of any HW champ. Who knows how that factors? He could have bones as dense as snakewood. Anyway I could ramble forever. All I know is Canelo has great proportions to cover up with his defensive style. It’s a real think of beauty.

[TBETroll]

He still had a solid fight and cut off the ring quite successfully. Just surprised by him not using his jab the last couple of fights and he's a got a good one.

I'm sure Canelo will seriously entertain your feedback and make changes to satisfy you

[pesticid]

Judges don’t care about jabs, so Canelo doesn’t either. Hence why he throws right hands, hooks, and uppercuts ways more than he throws jabs.

Notice his opponents outjabbing him, but getting nowhere with it, getting KO’ed or beaten over 12 rounds.

Canelo cares more about accuracy and choosing the best punch to throw. When you are stalking a fighter and they are on their bicycle, a jab won’t necessarily be the best punch to throw.

Look at his fight vs Jacobs. Jacobs was busier with the jab by a good margin, Canelo threw less jabs, but landed more jabs and landed more power punches.

Everyone likes to parrot that the jab is the most important punch in boxing. But this is not always the case for every fighter, every style, every opponent. Fans overlook that some boxers just don’t necessarily need the jab as much as others do.

In general I believe that the jab is the most important punch, as it is a good way to start off your offence and a great tool to interrupt your opponent's offense. It's also the easiest punch to throw in boxing, however, you do make a point there that it is being parroted a lot. Roy Jones rarely landed any stiff jabs, he would pump it out, feint with it, etc. to get a reaction and then land his lead left hooks and lead straight rights. In Canelo's last two fights he's almost ignored the jab completely. I just can't think of any other fighter besides Canelo and Roy Jones who won fights without the jab, I am talking about p4p fighters in big fights, can you?

[kushking]

In general I believe that the jab is the most important punch, as it is a good way to start off your offence and a great tool to interrupt your opponent's offense. It's also the easiest punch to throw in boxing, however, you do make a point there that it is being parroted a lot. Roy Jones rarely landed any stiff jabs, he would pump it out, feint with it, etc. to get a reaction and then land his lead left hooks and lead straight rights. In Canelo's last two fights he's almost ignored the jab completely. I just can't think of any other fighter besides Canelo and Roy Jones who won fights without the jab, I am talking about p4p fighters in big fights, can you?

you're right not many do. Thats 2 of the few,maybe Chavez & Toney

[Hatesrats]

Saw GEE's name dropped & didn't even read any posts.

[-Kev-]

In general I believe that the jab is the most important punch, as it is a good way to start off your offence and a great tool to interrupt your opponent's offense. It's also the easiest punch to throw in boxing, however, you do make a point there that it is being parroted a lot. Roy Jones rarely landed any stiff jabs, he would pump it out, feint with it, etc. to get a reaction and then land his lead left hooks and lead straight rights. In Canelo's last two fights he's almost ignored the jab completely. I just can't think of any other fighter besides Canelo and Roy Jones who won fights without the jab, I am talking about p4p fighters in big fights, can you?

It makes fans look smart when they talk about jabs. Announcers also look like they know what they are talking about if they stress the “jab”.

A lot of people are afraid to say it because then elitist fans and journalists will make them feel bad.

In reality, no matter how many jabs you land on your opponent in a round, if your opponent landed the better shots in a round, he will get the round. Plain and simple.

One head snapping powerpunch that makes your opponent back up, and makes the fans say oohh, is better than your opponent landing 10 jabs.

A recent big fight, Joshua vs Usyk, AJ was busier with the jab by over 100 thrown. AJ threw 600 punches, with 400 being jabs. Great, right? Fundamentally awesome, right?

That does not help when Usyk is the one throwing and landing more power punches. The better punches of the rounds. Head snapping, catching fans attention, catching judges attention.

That was Usyk. So while AJ was doing what gives some fans and journalists a hard-on, jabbing a lot, Usyk was the one throwing and landing the meaningful shots. This lead Usyk to win the fight on the cards. The better punches landed, in more rounds than his opponent. It’s that simple.

AJ outlanded Usyk in jabs in 7 rounds out of 12 iirc, or they landed the same. Outjabbing or matching your opponent in jabs means nothing when he outlanded you in power shots in more rounds.

Jabs are vastly overrated depending on who the fighter is, and completely ignored for other fighters.

[BodyBagz]

In general I believe that the jab is the most important punch, as it is a good way to start off your offence and a great tool to interrupt your opponent's offense. It's also the easiest punch to throw in boxing, however, you do make a point there that it is being parroted a lot. Roy Jones rarely landed any stiff jabs, he would pump it out, feint with it, etc. to get a reaction and then land his lead left hooks and lead straight rights. In Canelo's last two fights he's almost ignored the jab completely. I just can't think of any other fighter besides Canelo and Roy Jones who won fights without the jab, I am talking about p4p fighters in big fights, can you?

Nelo was willing to lose the battle of the jab because he knew he owned all other punch stats.

Gotta have an other worldly jab to win a fight with it.
Plant had little else.