what happens in here if Pavlik beats PWill?

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  • studentofthegam
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    #11
    Originally posted by tocayito1
    no because when tat happens pwill will say he had an off night and have more excuses just like when quintana whooped that ass
    This makes no sense. He did have an off night. Didnt he clear that up in less than a round?

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    • baracuda
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      #12
      Originally posted by studentofthegam
      This makes no sense. He did have an off night. Didnt he clear that up in less than a round?
      off night my ass!...yes his win is better but theyre 1-1 vs eachother....

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      • tocayito1
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        #13
        Originally posted by studentofthegam
        This makes no sense. He did have an off night. Didnt he clear that up in less than a round?
        no he didnt...he caught quintana and finished him...in what way does that mean he was off? he was outboxed for 12 rounds...he cant fight on the inside...all he can do is throw 654 punches a round and he has crazy reach...i think hes super overrated...and when quintana called him out pwill wanted nothing to do with him

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        • Tmb04
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          #14
          Pwill might be a Freak of Nature type dude but still and all he's a Light MiddleWeight at most. I still think he could make the WW Limit.
          Why the **** should Pavlik get any credit for beating Pwill wen BHop was criticized his whole career for fighting smaller dudes. Pavlik will get no credit IMO. He needs to move up a class bcuz 160 sucks now

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          • jpitt
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            #15
            Originally posted by Tmb04
            Pwill might be a Freak of Nature type dude but still and all he's a Light MiddleWeight at most. I still think he could make the WW Limit.
            Why the **** should Pavlik get any credit for beating Pwill wen BHop was criticized his whole career for fighting smaller dudes. Pavlik will get no credit IMO. He needs to move up a class bcuz 160 sucks now
            The guy's 6-2 for **** sake. No normal man is a natural welter or junior middle at that height. Sounds like your busy coming up with reasons to not give Pav any credit if he beats Paul. And we both know that BHop is the world's greatest cherry-picker. He knew Kelly had no business being in there with him at 170. Bernard is one cagey old man.

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            • Tmb04
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              #16
              Originally posted by jpitt
              The guy's 6-2 for **** sake. No normal man is a natural welter or junior middle at that height. Sounds like your busy coming up with reasons to not give Pav any credit if he beats Paul. And we both know that BHop is the world's greatest cherry-picker. He knew Kelly had no business being in there with him at 170. Bernard is one cagey old man.
              Wat the hell does that mean? Ever heard of Hearns?? Height aint ****... Ur acting like He's Diesal or sum ****. PWill is skin n Bone. Hold up, Who has Pavlik fought since he became Middleweight champ? Lockett & Rubio? Who?
              Then he personally says he fights better at higher weights. Wat happened wen he had a rematch wit Taylor? Who won wen he fought B-Hop?

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              • Jutt
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                #17
                Originally posted by tocayito1
                no he didnt...he caught quintana and finished him...in what way does that mean he was off? he was outboxed for 12 rounds...he cant fight on the inside...all he can do is throw 654 punches a round and he has crazy reach...i think hes super overrated...and when quintana called him out pwill wanted nothing to do with him
                Cmon bruh you tellin stories now. Pwill is a pretty damn good inside fighter, especially with those long ass arms hes got. Yes he does have crazy reach..but he doesnt use it as much as he should. He likes to trade in the pocket...have you watched him fight?

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                • Spray_resistant
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                  #18
                  If Pav beats PWill he gains a lot of credibility back but defensive boxers will forever be thought of as a "bad match up" for him.

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                  • jpitt
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Tmb04
                    Wat the hell does that mean? Ever heard of Hearns?? Height aint ****... Ur acting like He's Diesal or sum ****. PWill is skin n Bone. Hold up, Who has Pavlik fought since he became Middleweight champ? Lockett & Rubio? Who?
                    Then he personally says he fights better at higher weights. Wat happened wen he had a rematch wit Taylor? Who won wen he fought B-Hop?
                    I don't care what Pavlik says. My eyeballs tell me he's not the same fighter above 160. Looked comparatively lethargic in the Taylor rematch and he looked like a little boy being taken out to the woodshed against Bernard. PWill has already beaten a world-class fighter in Winky Wright at middle you dope. He could make the lower weights if he wanted but he looked like the same fighter to me when he fought Winky.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mangler
                      I always picked Kelly to KO Pwill cuz I don't think he got the chin to take Kelly's power at MW. I changed my mind and believe Pwill can beat him now, just cuz Pavlik got no heart. I'd give him more credit than I woulda given him before if he stopped Pwill, just cuz I see him as reluctant.

                      What makes you say Pav has no heart, Mang?

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