Why was Floyd Mayweather never the undisputed champion in any weight class

[kushking]

regardless, Genaro was THE man at 130, plus Corrales was an amazing win.

Baldomir had every belt except IBF, he refused to pay because he was legit that broke. Now whether he was a great champ or not, he was THE champ because he beat undisputed Judah and after he beat Gatti.

I agree he shouldn't get full credit for beating Canelo, but it is amazing because no other fighter since then could do what Floyd did on Canelo.

Baldomir didn't have every belt besides the Ibf,he only had 1 actual belt(Wbc),& 2 worthless trinkets(he had Ibo & Iba,those aren't real belts),

Edit,just realized what you were referencing about the Wba & Ibf, you're right that Baldomir didn't pay sanctioning fee(but not because he was broke because he didn't want to make mandatory)

[clmags12]

Baldomir didn't have every belt besides the Ibf,he only had 1 actual belt(Wbc),& 2 worthless trinkets(he had Ibo & Iba,those aren't real belts),

Edit,just realized what you were referencing about the Wba & Ibf, you're right that Baldomir didn't pay sanctioning fee(but not because he was broke because he didn't want to make mandatory)

Baldomir was not able to pay fees bc his fight with Judah, he didn't get paid enough. He kept the WBA and had the lineal iirc. Which is Floyds147 lineal win when he took it from Baldomir.

[kushking]

Baldomir was not able to pay fees bc his fight with Judah, he didn't get paid enough. He kept the WBA and had the lineal iirc. Which is Floyds147 lineal win when he took it from Baldomir.

Thats not true,& that makes zero sense because the sanctioning bodies charge sanctioning fees relative on how much a fighter earns(its in every orgs bylaws),from boxrec"baldomirs camp said they were never approached about paying sanctioning fees"(obviously said to downplay that Baldomir dropped those belts to not have to defend them in mandos,& instead fought Floyd)

Wikipedia quote which IS accurate (based on showtime telecast)"the SHOWTIME broadcast mentioned that Baldomir chose not to pay the sanctioning fees for the other organizations, out of loyalty to the WBC, which gave him the opportunity to fight for a world title by naming him the mandatory challenger to Judah."

Wikipedia goes on in a separate unsubstantiated paragraph to claim that Baldomirs purse would be more than he earned.

But this is completely false because it is highly illegal for a fighter to pay more than a certain percentage of his total purse to sanctioning bodies

Fighters who pay more in fees is because they're earning millions of dollars

[Floyd is TBE]

Nobody ducks Kell Brook baring Amir Khan...... Do you honestly believe Brook stood a chance? I would Favour Amir Khan around that period to give Floyd a run for his money for the simple fact Floyd didnt have the power to smash Amir Khan's glass chin...... Nobody out boxes Khan. He gets knocked out for fun but name a fighter that has ever outboxed him?

Bro is this a joke? Amir Khan gets knocked out because he's a poor boxer. All he has is speed. Floyd would have knocked Khan's ass out in eight.

[BodyBagz]

He was by default.

I know w/l happen in the ring but do we think their was anyone around who could have beaten him ?

The names that have been volleyed around -

Margarito. Every hater favorite boogeyman. Outside of beating a green (a term I don't like using after 20 fights) Sergio and a controversial win vs Cotto, who in the FCK did he beat ? I don't want to hear about everyone being too scared to fight him. He put the cave in caveman. Yeah, he could take a punch but at that point, May was not about power. May would hit this ********** with a 10 punch combo before Margarito could blink. May would easily avoid Capt Caveman's slow motion Hail Mary's. You picture May lhao at the feebleness of it all. May was at war with TR and Margie was a TR fighter. May went on to bigger and better fights. Margie, not so much.

P Williams. True. Going by the visuals, it seemed like a daunting task (6'1'' 79 r vs 5'8'' 74 r !). However, Paul's biggest and constant problem was his size. He constantly smothered his own punches by being overly aggressive. And he was a lefty. On paper, this would have been a fight to test May. HOWEVER. Slow AF Margarito was able to land a million punches (true, they are close in height, not so much reach). IMHO, May's ring savvy and superior hand speed and defense would have given May the edge.

Cotto. Cotto is my boy but nah. May would pretty much figure him out in the 1st 3 rds and simply take over. Also, He too was a TR fighter (I believe) and TR is said to have not wanted to put Cotto in there with May. This would have been an easy fight for May. Possible stoppage.

Morales and Barrera. !!!!!!!!

Mosley. Like Cotto, Shane is a favorite of mine. Like Cotto, May would have figured him out and took over. No stoppage but a damn near shutout after 3.

Of these names, I have to say Paul was the one name that might have given May a hard night. I wonder what weight he he have to come in at to fight Pac......

''Pac was a former flyweight ...........''

Undisputed by default

[Noelanthony]

Bro is this a joke? Amir Khan gets knocked out because he's a poor boxer. All he has is speed. Floyd would have knocked Khan's ass out in eight.

Roy jones wasnt text book either but honestly name a boxer that has out boxed Amir Khan? Amir Khan gets knocked out as he has no chin. Not because he cant box. even FLOYD gets hit and he is a masterful boxer

[Roadblock]

Roy jones wasnt text book either but honestly name a boxer that has out boxed Amir Khan? Amir Khan gets knocked out as he has no chin. Not because he cant box. even FLOYD gets hit and he is a masterful boxer

Khan is a joke at top level, Floyd would stop him before 12 probably from body shots, as soon as the pressure was on Khan folds.

[Noelanthony]

Khan is a joke at top level, Floyd would stop him before 12 probably from body shots, as soon as the pressure was on Khan folds.

I'm not debating Floyd wouldn't beat him. Danny Garcia beat him, Prescott beat him, Barry hunter's boy beat him. The only point im making in all those defeats he was never out boxed. He was hit and then he crumbles and folds

[djtmal]

Floyd called out prime Shane/Oscar, they didn't want to fight him at the time. Floyd and Manny are both responsible for not fighting in 2010. Floyd was also supposed to fight Cotto in 2005 but Arum said Cotto was too new.

At the time around 2006-2007, Margarito was losing to PW and Santos, and was not a champion. Baldo was, so it made sense he fought him. The only time Marg was the boogeyman was when he beat Cotto, but that victory is now tainted because the handwraps, and Mosley destroyed Margarito at the very next fight.

I agree 100% he backed out of Winky. That's the only fighter I see that Floyd legit ducked.

Also top 30 is more than fair imo. I don't think Floyd or Manny are top 10 fighters. But I think Floyd has to be ranked ahead of Manny.

Shane is on record saying he called Floyd directly when they were at 130 and 135, and that Floyd said he was trying to break a title defense record at 130, Floyd never responded back to that statement, so I don't readily subscribe to the they didn't want to fight him excuse.
Thereafter Shane jumped up two weight classes to 147, beat Rivera a solid guy and put himself in line for Oscar. Did Floyd do that no. Floyd was nobody at 130-135 calling out Oscar selling woof tickets, a thing he has done throughout his career, he could have did what Shane did move up beat a solid guy at 147 to force the fight but no he was clout chasing imo.
If Oscar would have pulled a pup lightweight Floyd up two weight classes and beat him bad, which he was capable of doing, he would have gotten ostracized the same way Floyd should have gotten ostracized for pulling Marquez up two weight classes in one fight, plus welched him on the scales, but in this new age of fanboyism, its about keeping your favorite fighter undefeated in low risk fights.
Floyd had a 8 million guarantee to fight Margarito, who followed Floyd around everywhere begging him for a fight. Floyd backed out of it to fight a far lessor fighter in Baldimir I'd say that was a duck. Cotto at 140 was too new I agree, but after he beat Shane he called out Floyd but oops Floyd was on that mysterious two year vacation where the whole ww division was calling him out.
You can make a case for Manny being ahead of Floyd, and unfortunately for Floyd boys, there are lists that have Manny ahead of Floyd all-time. Floyd spent most of his time at ww, and he barely cracks top 10 all time there. Its like I said all Floyd had to do was beat the best guys in their prime and you wouldn't have to make up all the excuses.

[djtmal]

Floyd would stop him before 12 probably from body shots, as soon as the pressure was on Khan folds.

Yeah but in order for that to happen, Floyd would have had to actually get in the ring and do it.