Comments Thread For: Whyte: Joshua's Problem is With Himself, Not With His Coaches

[Earl-Hickey]

Whyte is correct.

Nothing against AJ but he has silk pyjamas syndrome and mentally checked out of boxing, he doesn't look like he wants to do it anymore, there is no hunger, no intensity.

I would be STUNNED if he manages to beat Usyk, and I'm taking into account I don't think Usyk is unbeatable, far from it, but Joshua looks like a FINISHED fighter to me, he's ready to call it a day and go do TV shows.

[Earl-Hickey]

Whyte was more in trouble against Parker in his round 12 so why would he say AJs fight should have been stopped ? Always has to say something obscure .

No he wasn't.

Whyte had the wherewithal to grab Parker spin him and pin him on the ropes smothering him, good survival tactics from Whyte.

Joshua languished on the ropes, swaying like an inflatable arm man, defenceless, and survived by virtue of Usyk being truly a merciful man. Joshua looked like David Price in that 12th round, Whyte was knackered but had his senses.

Whyte was also ahead on the cards in a close run contest, Joshua was miles behind having been given a drubbing.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I think Anthony Joshua currently right now, has a big influence on his training and lifestyle. It was Joshua himself, who decided to go down the all technical and obsessive route 'Post Ruiz Junior I'. A route and philosophy that as regressed him as a fighter, and it looks like he is still obsessing about going down this route.

I still think he can win the rematch, eventually I think he will realize 'He just needs to be raw with Usyk'.

Joshua has already shown the ability in past fights, and tactics that I honestly don't think Usyk could cope with etc'.

[Gamboal00]

I think Anthony Joshua currently right now, has a big influence on his training and lifestyle. It was Joshua himself, who decided to go down the all technical and obsessive route 'Post Ruiz Junior I'. A route and philosophy that as regressed him as a fighter, and it looks like he is still obsessing about going down this route.

I still think he can win the rematch, eventually I think he will realize 'He just needs to be raw with Usyk'.

Joshua has already shown the ability in past fights, and tactics that I honestly don't think Usyk could cope with etc'.

Not that simple though is it. If all AJ needs to do to win is rush Usyk or be aggressive like he was against WK, Usyk will just dance around him. He's much quicker, and if AJ steams in hanging his chin in the air, he's gonna get caught and wobbled like he was throughout the fight.

Also, when he beat WK he weighed 250lbs, he was plodding around the ring. Usyk would be about twice as quick as that aggressive, heavy Joshua.

[JakeTheBoxer]

You still ducked world title shot and you made Ruiz being a world champ for 6 months.

[deathofaclown]

Well the problem is largely himself. He’s more timid in the ring now, that’s due to his own self belief.

But the mind is a funny thing, if changing trainers somehow gives him a change of mentality and boost of confidence, then why not.

[deathofaclown]

Not that simple though is it. If all AJ needs to do to win is rush Usyk or be aggressive like he was against WK, Usyk will just dance around him. He's much quicker, and if AJ steams in hanging his chin in the air, he's gonna get caught and wobbled like he was throughout the fight.

Also, when he beat WK he weighed 250lbs, he was plodding around the ring. Usyk would be about twice as quick as that aggressive, heavy Joshua.

that’s it. Just trying to walk through Usyk isn’t going to work.

On here I picked Usyk to win the first fight And I said the size difference won’t be a big factor for Joshua. Usyk has been in ring sparring huge heavyweights for years, the size isn’t alien to him, do people not think he’s had years of practice of big men trying to walk him down?

I certainly think you can use size as an advantage, of course you can, but knowing HOW is the big factor. There’s a skill to it. Tyson Fury knows how to big man fighters, he isn’t just walking them down without intelligence behind it. AJ has never done it, when have you ever even seen AJ truly use his size to manoeuvre people around the ring? He doesn’t. There is an art to doing it really well that takes years of practice.

If you’re trying to big man a fighter like Usyk when you’ve never really been that kind of fighter and you don’t understand the art of doing it, then you’re just going to walk into shots.

Even if you understand the art of using your physical size, you still have to be brave to do it. AJ looks very scared in the ring these days, And he already knows Usyk can hurt him. So I’d be really doubtful if AJ is going to even try it. Even if he did, He may just eat a few counters in the first round and get put back in his box.

Oh let’s not forget the main factor, Usyk is just excellent. He can dictate the style of fight against lesser boxing brain like AJ. People were saying Joshua needed to let his hands go, don’t they think he would if he could? He did v Pulev. Usyk didn’t allow it.

[REDEEMER]

No he wasn't.

Whyte had the wherewithal to grab Parker spin him and pin him on the ropes smothering him, good survival tactics from Whyte.

Joshua languished on the ropes, swaying like an inflatable arm man, defenceless, and survived by virtue of Usyk being truly a merciful man. Joshua looked like David Price in that 12th round, Whyte was knackered but had his senses.

Whyte was also ahead on the cards in a close run contest, Joshua was miles behind having been given a drubbing.

Whyte was knocked down and eating leather and holding on fir dear life , A.J was smiling and bouncing on the ropes to lure Usyk into a punch while getting the less better of the last round ,it’s pretty clear what fight would be stopped sooner . At no time was A.J in trouble where the fight should be stopped , when ? Where can you point out A.J didn’t have his senses at any time to justify a stoppage ? Ha

A.J was not miles behind , he lost the fight within the last 2/ 3 rounds ,the entire one sided thing needs to be stopped . It’s a bit ridiculous the fight was very close it was 113 /115 where the one judge had it right . Look at Usyks face after the fight ,not sure why many posters think it was one direction of punches landing ?

[letsgochump]

Whyte was knocked down and eating leather and holding on fir dear life , A.J was smiling and bouncing on the ropes to lure Usyk into a punch while getting the less better of the last round ,it’s pretty clear what fight would be stopped sooner . At no time was A.J in trouble where the fight should be stopped , when ? Where can you point out A.J didn’t have his senses at any time to justify a stoppage ? Ha

A.J was not miles behind , he lost the fight within the last 2/ 3 rounds ,the entire one sided thing needs to be stopped . It’s a bit ridiculous the fight was very close it was 113 /115 where the one judge had it right . Look at Usyks face after the fight ,not sure why many posters think it was one direction of punches landing ?

Yea exactly. Usyk's face tells the story of a battle, not some one sided easy beating. I think Usyk fought a brilliant fight and his technique and box of tricks are amazing. He is tricky, fast and has a great engine but he also was taking shots that bothered him and he ate lots of jabs. After 8 I had it even and rounds 5-6 (i think) were really good for AJ. It doesn't take much to change the outcome.

One thing I look at in a rematch is who has more room for improvement. I think here it's Joshua. Usyk fought excellent and used his skills to nullify the size difference. He got Joshua to fight his fight. Joshua failed to use strength and size, he failed to take Usyk into uncomfortable areas and failed to interrupt Usyk's gameplan. Now ofc Usyk has a great boxing IQ and he can make adjustments and in that sense he has room for improvement if he adjusts to Joshuas new plan and style. I personally don't think the Chisora style is the answer to beat Usyk. This would mean you have to always put all in against Usyk and hope to get him out before you gas. Sounds like desperation to me. Joshua already fought 9 competitive rounds against him. Usyk can be beat, it's just gonna take a lot more finesse than just full attack until you tire yourself.

All in all the first fight is high quality technical boxing and the second will likely be as well. I just wish there was no rematch, seeing new matchups after all these rematches would be just more entertaining and interesting. But if this fight happens, it will definitely be good boxing. Both fighters respect each others power and try to outsmart each other.

[Robbie Barrett]

Funny thing is
Dillian Whyte was suprised that AJ lost He had actually thought AJ won the fight
Now he's making these statements

Why you lying?