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  • #21
    Originally posted by denium View Post
    Fury.

    They'll be a hollywood movie made about him when he retires.
    Surprise surprise, I knew you would say FURY. Would be a great boxing film if they get the right Characters. I wonder who would play WILDER?

    CINDERELLA MAN. I'M sure that was a true story . i cant remember the boxer they based it on

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

      Surprise surprise, I knew you would say FURY. Would be a great boxing film if they get the right Characters. I wonder who would play WILDER?

      CINDERELLA MAN. I'M sure that was a true story . i cant remember the boxer they based it on
      Yeah man, I'm surprised you didn't suggest a film about AJ? Selling 10 bags on the mean streets of Watford, I bet he has some stories to tell!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

        Surprise surprise, I knew you would say FURY. Would be a great boxing film if they get the right Characters. I wonder who would play WILDER?

        CINDERELLA MAN. I'M sure that was a true story . i cant remember the boxer they based it on
        James Braddock. Yup dude went from tru rags to riches. I agree.

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        • #24
          Anthony Joshua used to go by the name "Femi da Don". But Eddie Hearns said it sounded too much like "Femdom", which is short for "female domination", which is a sort of pnorography, where women stamp on men's testicles in stilettos, and sit on their faces and smother them with their vniaga until the man passes out from lack of oxygen. That kinda thing. You get the idea. So Eddie Hearns made him use the name "Anthony" instead. I always found that story amusing.

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          • #25
            Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, Jack Johnson, Jake Lamotta i.e Raging bull is a good movie anyway, Sugar Ray Robinson.

            Ron Lyle, Scott Harrison, they are fighters who I would imagine have great stories 'But not much is covered on them'.

            Because boxing is a working class blue collar sport, there are many fighters with inspirational stories 'I cannot just single out one fighter'.

            Some more fighters, Rocky Graziano, James Walter Braddock 'The Cinderella man'.



            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-22-2021, 07:36 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Mike_b View Post

              Wasn't he a child soldier? Lol I remember HBO reunited then after years of seperation. His family was present at his fight.
              yeah he was a uganda child soldier but after he lost all his money he became a male ********** in Los angeles for wealthy harvey weinstein types

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              • #27
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                • #28
                  Sugar Ray Leonard. Brilliant Olympic champion with no intention of boxing as a pro, had to change his plans. World Champion within 3 years. Seriously injured. Retired multiple times. Took on and beat Hagler with no warm up and without a top level fight in about 5 years.

                  Incredible story. He can tell a story too.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by denium View Post

                    Yeah man, I'm surprised you didn't suggest a film about AJ? Selling 10 bags on the mean streets of Watford, I bet he has some stories to tell!
                    There are about 50 films similar to the AJ story and thats just in the Uk. Bored of it. Every Grime video portrays that crap.

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                    • #30
                      Yankee Sullivan was born in Ireland as either James Ambros or Frank Murray, no one really knows. By his teen years he's been shipped to Tazmania for being a paid hand who helped rig election. He beat people up for voting the wrong way.

                      In Australia he took the name Yankee Sullivan, promoted himself as an American, and took to the prize fighting circuit until he had the chance to stow away aboard a vessel headed to the States.

                      In America Yankee made a name for himself through his boxing and intermingling with crooked government officials until he worked the corner of an Englishman called Lilly. Lilly was fighting a man named McCoy and losing from a tactic that was illegal but not being called. Like a rabbit punch or low blows. McCoy was flopping, or, going down to end the round without taking a punch. Yankee not long prior took a beating from Hammer Lane who used the same tactic so he advised Lilly to do as he had done against Hammer; when the opposition drops fall on them and be slow to get up. Fall on them with an elbow to the ribs. So Lilly started to wait for McCoy to flop then he'd drop an elbow and when the ref got them back up he'd be slow about getting up. Eventually Lilly actually killed McCoy, smothered to death.

                      Sullivan and Lilly are Europeans, McCoy and his team were not.

                      This would be one of if not the first recorded deaths in a boxing ring in America. It sparked a criminal investigation which found Sullivan admitting Yankee Sullivan is just a stage name, he is no American and his name is not Sullivan. At the time America was going through her very first anti-immigration political wave. Americans born and raised in America wanted the border closed. They picked up the trial story and name with it, their spin being Yankee and Lilly are proof positive that european immigration bring violent old world european culture to good wholesome and holy American life. Kinda almost the exact same thing as now and south americans. They're violent criminals who threaten your way of life and so on.

                      This made Yankee America's first bad guy in boxing and true star. The judge threw out the murder charge but banned Yankee from boxing for a period for his own safety. Lilly, for his part, ****ed off back to England and never stood trial in America which was a main reasoning for Yankee's ban. He'd get the full focus of the US citizens alone.

                      Yankee would not stick to this ban, he went a bit south and picked up fighting again. The authority heard about it and gave chase. They chased him from the northeast US all the way to California. They chased him with Army boys, Coppers, Vigilantes, and by the end even a number of organized crime syndicates were on Yankee's ass. Hounds, horses, guns, they brought ye olden posse to get him where ever he went.

                      During his time in the mid-west Yankee made a little money dabbling in election fixing again. Again, beating up people who vote wrong. On the fighting side of things he was able to score two massive fights during his years as a wanted man. He fought the leader of the Dead Rabbits gang and later Senator John Morrissey. The crowd was the gang and some marks, they were armed and the fight was fixed. For Yankee it was lose or be shot, no other stipulations provided. Yankee would lose in the most gorgeous way possible. He beat the utter **** out of Morrissey and left him a bloody pulp in the ring. As the men readied their pistols and the ref counted Morrissey out Yankee grabbed his **** and walked the **** out of the building forcing the ref to DQ him before counting Morrissey out.

                      On that, you know how they say cowboys never cleared bars, it's just Hollywood? True, cowboys didn't, but Yankee Sullivan did that ****s while running from Johnny law for a little extra cash.

                      The other major fight is a loss. Tom Hyer was part of that anti-immigration wave. That's why he goes by "Young American" that was a politically charged phrased back then kinda a bit like calling yourself Tea Party or *******. He used the anti-immigration propaganda to make himself the second most famous boxer in America after the hated and reviled Sullivan the liar and murderer. It's fair to say Tom was boxing's first good guy. Yankee's main focus was not going to jail, like in the Morrissey fight if he could fight Hyer, get paid, and stay free he was happy so Hyer's win is kinda questionable really, bit fixed, bit under motivated to win too. Hyer beats Sullivan and become America's first home recognized champion. Moly beat him in years by about 40 but Hyer was known in America. After his victory over the dastardly Sullivan Hyer would enjoy almost John L level of appreciation across America.

                      Sullivan continues his run from the law and evades authority until he caught by the Vigilance Committee in California. Bit Militia, bit gang, all vigilante, the VC took control of Cali because the US government could not handle it. Yankee was meant to be handed over to official authority but never made it. He was murdered, stabbed, in his cell.

                      Less Claypool knows what's up:
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