Comments Thread For: Bradley Believes Joshua's Confidence No Longer The Same, He's Scared To Get Hit

[peplz]

No, punch stats DO NOT COUNT. Have you watched boxing? Do you even know what boxing scoring criteria is?

All you do is make blind irrational pronouncements and answer questions with questions. You have proven that nothing you say has any validity. You don’t have anything to back up your bold statements.

[Boxingfanatic75]

All you do is make blind irrational pronouncements and answer questions with questions. You have proven that nothing you say has any validity. You don’t have anything to back up your bold statements.

Wtf!? Blind irrational pronouncements and you call yourself a boxing fan!? Yet want to come in here and lecture me about punch stats!? It’s kinda cute you’re new to the sport and all but you might want to first study on the sport before opening your yap.

So here’s my “blind irrational pronouncement” on how boxing is scored genius. Do you see ANYTHING in here citing “punch stats?”

effective aggression, defense, ring generalship, and clean punches

[Boxingfanatic75]

I know you want to push a narrative. But its lost on me. Romanticizing taking heavy punishment and getting beaten bloody and rendered unconscious makes about as much sense as PRETENDING that Anthony Joshua some how quit against Ruiz. Only the Deontay Wilder fantasy narrative pushers try so hard to tell that story. Deontay Wilder went out. Cold. Anthony Joshua did not.

Hahahahaha so your a ******* history revisionist as well. It’s about “my truth.” Lmao you libtards are all the same. Spitting out your gum shield and then not responding to the ref when asked if you wish to continue is QUITTING you dolt.

[Stuntman Mike]

That's nonsense. What was truly dominant when he met fury. He wasn't gunshy he simply rarely needed anymore than a jab and simple 1-2 to beat his opponements. Not giving fury full credit for that win shows you are simply looking through Rose tinted glasses. No reflexes? Yet years later he schooled joshua for the majority of the fight looking the quicker man in his 40's. He simply got it wrong tactically and allowed Joshua back into that fight he didn't land a glove on fury

He found his balls against Joshua and went for one last hurrah putting himself in danger after being soundly outboxed by Fury due to being gunshy

If he rematched fury he would have done done same thing and thrown leather like he did against joshua and fury probably knew it hence the duck

[peplz]

Wtf!? Blind irrational pronouncements and you call yourself a boxing fan!? Yet want to come in here and lecture me about punch stats!? It’s kinda cute you’re new to the sport and all but you might want to first study on the sport before opening your yap.

So here’s my “blind irrational pronouncement” on how boxing is scored genius. Do you see ANYTHING in here citing “punch stats?”

effective aggression, defense, ring generalship, and clean punches

More blind irrational pronouncements…

[peplz]

Hahahahaha so your a ******* history revisionist as well. It’s about “my truth.” Lmao you libtards are all the same. Spitting out your gum shield and then not responding to the ref when asked if you wish to continue is QUITTING you dolt.

So boxing forums are a place to promote neo conservatism and *************** fringe politics? Maybe you should take this debate to a kindergarten preschool, church or mosque with your AR-15 and shoot up some children or people praying. Quitting is quitting. Pushing a false narrative is pushing a false narrative.

[aboutfkntime]

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I like dunking on AJ, he deserves it... but you are definitely correct

it took a significant change of style - and more importantly - a significant change of mentality... to reverse that shocking loss to Ruiz... which is actually what Bradley is referring to in my humble opinion

AJ is caught between a rock and a hard place

should he risk fighting to his strength, by imposing himself physically... or should he play it safe, and bank that win... like he did in the rematch

watch Wladimir Klitschko in his first few fights with Steward, he was exactly the same

Klitschko had the exact same problem until he settled into the style that Steward was crafting

the thing is, you can do both... great fighters can box, then ****, at the drop of a hat... but that takes confidence, which comes from experience... and like you pointed out, AJ is short on both of those things at this point... which is why he got caught between styles with Usyk

a skilled boxer with respectable power - like Usyk - is just the guy to exploit that situation

it is far more accurate to say that AJ laid a egg in that fight, than it is to say that Usyk put on a masterclass... which is why the casuals and ****riders are in for a BIG shock when Usyk fights Fury... who can seamlessly transition between boxing/****ing without even thinking about it... again, a instinct that comes with experience

Usyk will be far less effective against Fury

AJ aint scared, like some little kid... but he is wary, and he is concerned... because he KNOWS that he can be hurt... Ruiz landed a punch that buzzed AJ, which led to more clean punches landing... and Usyk did the exact same thing, he buzzed AJ and then followed up with more clean punches... AJ is lucky that Usyk is not as abrasive as Ruiz or it could have been another short night

it is correct to say that AJ needs more time to develop his style, but it is just as correct to say that AJ needs more time to develop mentally

good post bro



#experience
#experienceisthekeytoEVERYTHINGinlife







Cheers, you made some great points, too. The only place in which we diverge is our views on Usyk, not that I’m dismissing your take on him, though.

But I reckon that history will be kinder to Joshua re: his Usyk defeat than they were about Ruiz.

In a couple of years, I suspect people won’t be saying Joshua lost to a ‘blown up cruiserweight’, but that he should have lost to him, because there is an absolutely chasm between them respective abilities.

The questions for Usyk are: (1) can he repeat his first HW trick?

I reckon yes.

(2) and has he had enough boxing experience to understand how to circumvent the boxers like Wilder and Fury actually know how to use their size?

I think he’s seen arguably everything in 400+ fights. Fury’s the question mark for me, but I reckon Usyk wins this one too.

I give Usyk no chance of beating Fury, none... because he cannot contain him, and will struggle to hurt him

Fury is much more well-rounded as a fighter, and much more confident... than Joshua... he is also much longer, and he knows how to use that length

Wilder/Usyk is 50/50, with me slightly leaning toward Wilder

I am almost certain that Wilder would land betsy at some point in that fight, just like he did on EVERY other opponent... and I know that Usyk does not have the resilience of Tyson Fury






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[Boxingfanatic75]

So boxing forums are a place to promote neo conservatism and *************** fringe politics? Maybe you should take this debate to a kindergarten preschool, church or mosque with your AR-15 and shoot up some children or people praying. Quitting is quitting. Pushing a false narrative is pushing a false narrative.

Lmao face it fan boi casual your god quit

[Boxingfanatic75]

More blind irrational pronouncements…

This proves you dnsab these are the quoted scoring criteria of boxing. Please go back and join your moisty millenial soy boy pals in the gaming forums. You clearly do not not anything about boxing; including the actual quotes rules.

[MastaBlasta]

I agree with Bradley but it goes farther. AJ has "punch memory" I believe Wilder has it also. When Fury hit him in that spot just behing the ear in the head/neck, and Wilder went down (1st knockdown in the Trilogy fight) ... it changed the fight completely. Wilder has a lot of dog in him, and fought through it better than most you will ever see. He put up an amazing fight considering was never out of trouble after that 1st knockdown punch re-awakened his problems from that rabbit punch 1st knockdown in fight 2. But in the long run he was damaged goods and not stable through the rest of the fight. The fact that he caught and put Fury down twice is beyond amazing.

In AJ and Wilder's case, you get physically damaged and mentally changed from a serious head blow by a nearly 300lb. professional fighter. Anyone will. It takes years honestly for the physical damage to the head/neck/brain to completely heal. The mental side sometimes heals faster, sometimes slower, sometimes never. Wilder's mental side seems to have healed fairly fast, but the physical damage was exposed after he was hit in the trilogy fight. For AJ, his mental "issues" seem to have never healed far enough (from the 1st Ruiz fight). He seems to fear the trauma of taking a solid punch (it's a smart fear to have after head trauma).

In both cases my opinion was that both fighters resumed fighting way too fast. It usually takes years for the physical and mental issues to heal enough to be able to have more head trauma (punches to the head) and not immediately rekindle the original trauma. It takes years to be able to take huge (world-class) punches to the head without being incapacitated badly ... which is very dangerous in the ring. Both fighters resumed fighting for championships way too soon for the good of their long-term health.

I think AJ should shelve the rematch with Usyk for now, take some time off, and allow his mind and body to heal without needing to fend off head punches. He will be better and healthier in the long term with a pause. Wilder would have been better if he had paused longer also, and after a very damaging fight he really needs a long pause now from boxing.