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  • Verus
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    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

    People have been talking about P4P way before even SRR.

    I have followed boxing since I was a small child in 1953, there was mention and general acknowledgment of Sugar Ray Robinson as the best lb for lb but not lists of active boxers and such. Of course, there was always talk and heated discussion about who was the best by weight class and such, but no formal lb for lb lists by the press or any boxing professionals. Hey, I even remember Danny Bang Bank Womber defeating Kid Gavilan, but alas Womber did not crack a lb. for lb. list. That was before the "lists" came into being.

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  • Robertthebruce
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    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    He's right. Fury performed worse than in the 2nd fight and still moved up. You have boxing media (largely American) pushing their bias. Didn't ESPN have Wilder top 10 P4P a few years ago?
    Hey Robbie Barrett, Aren't you that fool who lost the bet??

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  • Verus
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    Originally posted by Nash out View Post

    Whether P4P was an 'official thing" at that time or not, is irrelevant to the fact that people would have had in their own mind who they believe the best overall boxer is. Nash out.
    I was an avid boxing fan in the 50's and 60's, watched the fights on TV every Friday night, and saw Muhammed Ali (then Cassius Clay) fight in Chicago as an amateur when he and I both were 17 years old. There was no mention of lb for lb lists and such. The lb. for lb. lists began in earnest in the 70's. It would have been nice if there were lb for lb discussions then. The only mention of lb for lb was an occasional reference to Joe Louis' mention of Ray Robinson and the best boxer lb for lb. That was about it.

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  • Bronx2245
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    Sometimes less is more! Your guy (Joshua) has been abused by 2 different guys! That's not the same as losing to a 6'9" undefeated fighter who has the head movement of Ali! At this point, Fury is King! He's survived 4 Knockdowns in 3 fights and still produced a dominant performance! Joshua go beat up by a fat guy, and a little guy! SHAME!

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    "I still believe that our guy is the best heavyweight in the world. But right now, it’s difficult to convince people otherwise.” Considering that Joshua has lost his belts TWICE in two years, that's a tough sell, Eddy.

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  • richardt
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    And if Hearn was Fury's promoter he would be calling Fury the best heavyweight since Ali.

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  • BayonneBldr288
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    I agree.

    AJ's slide down the P4P rankings by losing to many different opponents makes much more sense.

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  • VislorTurlough
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    The desperate spin of some of these Matchroom interns is something else. Joshua revealed as merely this generation’s Tim Witherspoon or Trevor Berbick. Whyte a 2x PED cheat who has been dropped by a who’s who @ HW. Yet the best HW of this era by miles is a Brit. But - unless a fighter submits to Eddie, they are the enemy

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  • PeepeePoopooMan
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    I mean he does have a good point.

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  • Ry92
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    So few big fights a year blame such contenders not fighting eachother nor champs vs champs or legit threats. Fury p4p interesting case p4p usyk gete the go ahead for dude won legit belts more than 1 class. #2 p4p to me now yet fury the best heavyweight yet usyk got all the other belts . ofcourse nelo #1 p4p 3 weight classes of legit threats

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