How is Tyson Fury the Lineal Champion?

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  • Mikhnienko
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    How is Tyson Fury the Lineal Champion?

    I was hoping somebody could clarify because I only see two ways and neither appears valid.

    1) Fury becomes lineal after beating Klitschko, retires for three years and returns with his status being upheld regardless of his absence which is bogus or;

    2) in Dec 2018 Fury vs Wilder I was considered the establishment of a new lineage with both men being rated #1 and #2? In Dec 2018 Joshua had the WBO, WBA, IBF, belts with wins over Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, White, Takam which surpasses anything Wilder had done so did the whore RING magazine have Wilder rated at 1 or 2 at that point in time?
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    TBRB, The Ring, and ESPN all had Wilder and Fury in the top 2 at the time of their second fight.

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    • Mikhnienko
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      Originally posted by famicommander
      TBRB, The Ring, and ESPN all had Wilder and Fury in the top 2 at the time of their second fight.
      Well that explains it thanks but damn those are some horrid ratings.

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      • LoadedWraps
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        #4
        Originally posted by Mikhnienko
        I was hoping somebody could clarify because I only see two ways and neither appears valid.

        1) Fury becomes lineal after beating Klitschko, retires for three years and returns with his status being upheld regardless of his absence which is bogus or;

        2) in Dec 2018 Fury vs Wilder I was considered the establishment of a new lineage with both men being rated #1 and #2? In Dec 2018 Joshua had the WBO, WBA, IBF, belts with wins over Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, White, Takam which surpasses anything Wilder had done so did the whore RING magazine have Wilder rated at 1 or 2 at that point in time?


        He beat the man who beat the man. Took Lineal title from Wlad, a lineage unbroken since Sullivan.

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        • ShaneMosleySr
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          Joshua lost to Ruiz and had not avenged it yet.

          It was the only logical ranking.

          But because of it. Fury is one of six men to win the lineal title twice.

          Originally posted by Mikhnienko

          Well that explains it thanks but damn those are some horrid ratings.

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            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Joshua lost to Ruiz and had not avenged it yet.

            It was the only logical ranking.

            But because of it. Fury is one of six men to win the lineal title twice.


            Joshua did avenge it but they kept Wilder ahead of him.

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              Originally posted by LoadedWraps


              He beat the man who beat the man. Took Lineal title from Wlad, a lineage unbroken since Sullivan.
              It has been broken many times. The 'lineal championship" is a marketing ploy. Who did Wlad win it off? He collected most of the belts but there is no connecting him to John L Sullivan lineally. You cant even connect him to Lennox Lewis that way. No one in the last 60+ years atleast has beat the man who beat the man who beat the man..etc. It is a given title by I dont know who now, Ring magazine I guess.

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              • ShaneMosleySr
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                still the only logical ranking.

                Joshua lost to an unranked heavyweight.

                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                Joshua did avenge it but they kept Wilder ahead of him.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  still the only logical ranking.

                  Joshua lost to an unranked heavyweight.


                  Unranked by who? Ruiz was #1 when Joshua beat him, So he was good enough to be ranked #1 but Joshua didn't get credit for beating #1.

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                    He was unranked when Joshua lost to him.

                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                    Unranked by who? Ruiz was #1 when Joshua beat him, So he was good enough to be ranked #1 but Joshua didn't get credit for beating #1.

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